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  • Speculation: David Samson's Days Numbered?

    From Loria's good friend, Jeff Passan

    4. David Samson being noticeably absent for a period in the middle of the year. Sources around the team wondered where Samson had gone, a question that has still gone unanswered. One thing, sources said, was clear: Owner Jeffrey Loria no longer considers Samson, his ex-wife's son and the team president, an untouchable in a planned overhaul of the organization.

    At this point, Marlins officials are fascinated to see how it shakes out. Loria almost fired president of baseball operations Larry Beinfest last season, and that could again be in play. It's not like Beinfest drafted and developed Jose Fernandez and Giancarlo Stanton and Christian Yelich and traded for the rest of the Marlins' young talent or anything.

    Loria is the East Coast Moreno, dirtying everything up with his paws. People throughout the organization were disgusted by his handling of Chris Valaika earlier this week, as the Miami Herald reported. Valaika was one of the players verbally abused by hitting coach Tino Martinez, who has since resigned. Martinez was Loria's personal hire, and, still angered by Martinez leaving, Loria personally stopped Valaika's promotion from Triple-A and instead insisted the Marlins call up journeyman Gil Velazquez.

    It was as vindictive and ugly a personnel move as Loria has engaged in, and that's saying something. Whoever goes in the purge may well be relieved to get away from the worst situation in baseball, even if the Marlins' future does look better at the moment than the one …
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  • #2
    Samson disappearing from the spotlight coincided with the Marlins changing PR firms.

    #firebeinberg

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    • #3
      You know, Samson popped up on my "people you may know" on LinkedIn yesterday. He only has 1 connection, so maybe he is indeed looking for work and just started
      Originally posted by Madman81
      Most of the people in the world being dumb is not a requirement for you to be among their ranks.
      Need help? Questions? Concerns? Want to chat? PM me!

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      • #4
        Loria almost fired president of baseball operations Larry Beinfest last season, and that could again be in play. It's not like Beinfest drafted and developed Jose Fernandez and Giancarlo Stanton and Christian Yelich and traded for the rest of the Marlins' young talent or anything.
        shit, Passan thinks he should stay so maybe we should fire him

        #passansamoron

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        • #5
          I don't like the sound of that, I have always felt like Samson was the guy getting thrown the blame, but Loria was the main culprit of the Marlins issues.

          I am on the fence if the team should keep/fire Beinfest.

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          • #6
            #EastCoastMorenoFoLyfe

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            • #7
              Loria blocking players promotions is also dumb. I'm so sick of him. He makes you hate the team you love. I wish they could force him to sell.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by marlinsfan24 View Post
                I am on the fence if the team should keep/fire Beinfest.
                The front office is under contract for 2 additional years. Why would Loria fire them and have to pay them when he is going to do what he wants to do regardless? They will not get someone better. And you have to give a lot of credit to Beinfest for Fernandez, Yelich, and Heaney the last 3 years, plus the variety of pretty cool other arms coming up, not even including the Blue Jays guys.

                He just ain't the problem. It all starts at the top.

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                • #9
                  It's not like if they fire Beinfest or Samson that Loria will hire someone who will tell him to sit in his office and shut up so what does it matter? Loria makes pretty much all the decisions and just tells them what to do.

                  The only thing Loria has no say beside asking how much they want is in the draft and like Lou said they draft pretty well

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                  • #10
                    he had 1 connection this morning, 61 as of now

                    http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view...=nmp_pymk_name

                    for real, dude may be networking and looking for work
                    Originally posted by Madman81
                    Most of the people in the world being dumb is not a requirement for you to be among their ranks.
                    Need help? Questions? Concerns? Want to chat? PM me!

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                    • #11
                      He does have the Premium account, after all.
                      God would be expecting a first pitch breaking ball in the dirt because humans love to disappoint him.
                      - Daft

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                      • #12
                        I think Beinfest is getting too much credit.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Sr.Imbto
                          Of course 6 months ago it was all "how could he not fire Beinfest, the man responsible for the worst trade in the history of all sports".
                          Yea but can you blame Beinfest for that when Loria has a proverbial gun against his head to trade them. Especially when guys like Buck and Bell are shoved down his throat? It's still all Loria
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                          Originally posted by Erick View Post
                          I think Beinfest is getting too much credit.
                          I think it is pretty cool he has drafted Stanton, Fernandez, Yelich, Cishek, Heaney, and another couple good arms and role players the last couple drafts. Assuming Yelich and Heaney turn into starters, that's a pretty excellent recent track record most organizations would take in a second. We can't bomb him forever on Hermida, Allison, and the "2005 all arm" draft can we?

                          Recent history suggests he has done a good job. Especially with all the 'new' information last 18 months about how much Loria really meddles. I just find it hard to really criticize him with this nutbag at the top. Don't get me wrong, I still think there are probably another 10 GMs out there that probably do a better job than Beinfest (regardless of payroll/Loria), I'm just saying. I find it just as tough to criticize him as to praise him. You can't really do either. He's just there and doing pretty good, just not great?

                          I'd really love to see him move to at least a mid market team next offseason just so we can see how he acts with a real franchise. Would be great if he takes over like Seattle so we can see if he fucks that up with a good young core and plenty of cash to spend. Would love some perspective on judging Beinfest and see what we can really dump on Loria. What a clown.
                          Last edited by lou; 08-27-2013, 10:59 PM. Reason: Doublepost Merged

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                          • #14
                            They're gonna make fun of the last sentence, lou.

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                            • #15
                              The rest of them are gonna make fun of the rest of the post.
                              poop

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