Cam Maybin Arbitration Status, or Lack Thereof

[lou]

You can first thank Ramp for saving this on Future Fish before T&B died.

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Just to remind you before starting, 172 Days of service time is 1 MLB season.

Cam Maybin’s Service Time

Entering 2009 - 58 Days
April 6 -May 10 2009 - 35 Days
Total - 93 Days (He was sent down May 11th, not sure if day of transaction counts, so everything may be off by 1 day, but you get the idea).

July 7th today through end of the season - 90 Days (183 Days for Maybin)
August 1st through end of the season - 65 Days (158 Days for Maybin)
September 1st through end of the season (Oct. 4th) - 35 Days (128 Days for Maybin)

Calling him up August 13thish or later

2010 - Minimum Salary; End of the year Service Time around 1.134
2011 - Minimum Salary; End of the year Service Time around 2.134
2012 - Minimum Salary; End of the year Service Time around 3.134
2013 - Arbitration year 1; End of the year Service Time around 4.134
2014 - Arbitration year 2; End of the year Service Time around 5.134
2015 - Arbitration year 3; End of the year Service Time over 6 years, FREE AGENCY

SO NEW PART, MAIN POINT HERE

The initial projection was 1.134 days. As of August 21st, we're another 8 days off so we're at 1.126 days and dropping. Another week, and sub-120 days isn't even arguable now. There is basically no way in hell Maybin is a Super 2 down the round now. We have his silly ass club controlled for 2010-2012, arbitration 2013-2015.

God I hope he is good. We have him forever.

[BigGameFish]

I hope he turns out more like McCutchen and less like Cameron

[Fish and Chips]

is adam jones, a good comparison?
/wishful thinking

[BigGameFish]

Side Note: Find it interesting that black prospects always get compared with current or former black players by the media. Whats up with that? I remember when Dontrelle Willis came up he was always compared with Dwight Gooden. Cant a black baseball player ever project to be like a white/hispanic/other player?
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is adam jones, a good comparison?
/wishful thinking

An Adam Jones would be delightful. Jones > McCutchen IMO. Jones has power, dont think McCutchen will develop that as far as Jones.

[Ramp]

I hope he turns out more like McCutchen and less like Cameron

I am very confused by this comment. You either think McCutchen is much better than he really is, or that Cameron is far worse than he really is.

[BigGameFish]

Cameron is a career .250 hitter. Sorry but i want more than that out of Maybin. Hopefully he can continue his .300+ AAA avg, maybe 280.-.300 in majors. McCutchen sparks the lineup, I'll take him over Cameron if I'm the Marlins.

[nny]

Cameron has better BABIP skills than Cameron does, so he'll hit over .250, but he probably won't have the power Cameron does.

When it comes to BB/K though Cameron's probably the best comp unless this season's AAA K rates are 4 realz and he can be in the low 20's.

Jones really is not an apt comparision outside of being black and center field, McCuthen also isn't really a comp cuz he has lower bb and k rates than maybin will likely have

[Ramp]

Cameron is a career .250 hitter. Sorry but i want more than that out of Maybin. Hopefully he can continue his .300+ AAA avg, maybe 280.-.300 in majors. McCutchen sparks the lineup, I'll take him over Cameron if I'm the Marlins.

Well like I said, you obviously think Cameron is worse than he is and McCutchen is better than he is.

Andrew McCutchen


Mike Cameron

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Cameron has better BABIP skills than Cameron does, so he'll hit over .250, but he probably won't have the power Cameron does.

When it comes to BB/K though Cameron's probably the best comp unless this season's AAA K rates are 4 realz and he can be in the low 20's.

Dude, you have no idea how confusing this is.

[BigGameFish]

What are u proving there? I dont get it? And why did you cut off Mike's first years with White Sox? Again he is a career .250 hitter. Showing me a bunch of stat boxes doesnt mean anything.

[Mainge]

Average isn't a real good measure of anything. Are you gon be pissed when Mike Stanton is a .250 hitter?

[lou]

What are u proving there? I dont get it? And why did you cut off Mike's first years with White Sox? Again he is a career .250 hitter. Showing me a bunch of stat boxes doesnt mean anything.

Yea M. Cameron is a .250/.350/.450 hitter, with superior defense up the middle, and good speed. Average is whatever when you walk that much and contribute in other ways.

I'm very content if Maybin can do that. That's a well above average CF and top 5-7, top 10 at worst, at his position. And if Maybin hits .280, superstar.

[Ramp]

What are u proving there? I dont get it? And why did you cut off Mike's first years with White Sox? Again he is a career .250 hitter. Showing me a bunch of stat boxes doesnt mean anything.

Well if you are just going to focus in on average, then you're not going to learn anything from what I posted.

They both get on at about the same clip, and hit for the same power. I don't know how good McCutchen's defense is, but Cameron's is exceptional.

[nny]

I was too young to know how good Ray Lankford was.

He'd be a pretty good comp of a good case for Maybin.

12.6% BB, 27% K, .205 ISO, .334 BABIP

Basically Mike Cameron with BABIP ability. Problem with using as a Maybin comp is he's a FB hitter like Mike was.

Career line: .272/.364/.477/.840

I'm still holding out though that Maybin's K% in AAA is real though and he's a 20-23% K rate in the majors even though it lowers his ISO to the .140-.170 range instead of the .170-.200 range.