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  • #31
    Originally posted by Big Z View Post
    Reynolds has some nasty pop, but I don't think I go 4 years on him. Imagine how much damage he can do when they pitch around Stanton, if he hits 5th.

    Any idea on how much $ is being offered?
    No idea on money,the idea his agent keeps throwing out to teams is play him at 3B then when he gets older he can play 1B/DH.

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    • #32
      Can we please trade for Juan Francisco instead?

      Juan Francisco + actual RH hitter (not Kouzmanoff) is a respectable platoon at 3B.

      Francisco has a lot of power and hits RHP well even if his plate discipline kinda sucks.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Big Z View Post
        Reynolds has some nasty pop, but I don't think I go 4 years on him. Imagine how much damage he can do when they pitch around Stanton, if he hits 5th.

        Any idea on how much $ is being offered?
        Oh yeah, he'll do soooo much damage while hitting .220 with 4,000 strikeouts.

        If someone gives him a 4 year deal I'll lol.

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        • #34
          I got to watch Francisco in Double-A in 2009 and he has some crazy good pop. I'd be a fan.
          LHP Chad James-Jupiter Hammerheads-

          5-15 3.80 ERA (27 starts) 149.1IP 173H 63ER 51BB 124K

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          • #35
            Alfredo Silverio, Miami Marlins

            Before missing the entire 2012 season due to a serious car accident, Silverio’s prospect stock was on the upswing as one of the only hitting prospects in the Dodgers organization. Having seen him quite a few times as a member of the Chattanooga Lookouts, Silverio is a toolsy outfielder whom I previously compared to a poor man’s Juan Encarnacion with the bat. Had Silverio been healthy in 2012, he likely would have made his Major League debut by now. And while he’s not really good enough to start for a championship contender, I’m pretty sure the Marlins currently have lesser players on their active roster. If healthy by spring training, it would not surprise me to see Silverio stick with the club. He won’t walk and may very well see an uptick in strikeouts, but he’ll run into a mistake pitch every now and then and has surprising contact skills for a prospect who presents with considerable rough edges.

            http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index...guys-ive-seen/
            There is a video on above link
            6 Marlins Alfredo Silverio, of Dodgers
            Showed the potential for five average or better tools, but missed all of 2012 after a car accident resulted in a concussion and an elbow injury. If healthy, could be the safest bet to stick on big league roster.

            6 Marlins Brauilo Lara, lhp Rays
            Lara has a lean, athletic build that produces a mid-90s fastball and a hard, downer curveball. He went 6-10, 5.71 in high Class A in 2012 so while the stuff is excellent, he's a long ways from being ready to help a big league club.


            http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/...-pick-by-pick/
            Alfredo Silverio, OF, Marlins: After a breakout 2011 season, when he hit .306 with 76 extra-base hits (16 HR, 42 2B, 18 3B), 85 RBI, and 11 SB in 132 games for Double-A Chattanooga, Silverio was probably just one season away from the big leagues. That season was supposed to be spent in the very hitter-friendly Pacific Coast League, where he would have likely continued to put up more ridiculous numbers before breaking into the majors late in the season. Instead, Silverio spent it recovering from injuries sustained in an offseason car accident.

            http://www.baseballprospectus.com/ar...rticleid=19102
            I am guessing there is more for Silverio on the paid article

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            • #36
              It was a shade over a year ago that Alfredo Silverio lost control of his car in the Dominican Republic, glanced off a concrete wall and rolled several times.

              Silverio, a promising minor-league outfielder for the Los Angeles Dodgers when the accident occurred, was so badly injured that he spent more than a week in the hospital, briefly lost his memory, underwent Tommy John surgery on his right throwing arm and missed the entire 2012 season.

              The accident now behind him, Silverio, 25, said he is almost fully healed and doesn’t intend on remaining idle this coming season. He hopes to be patrolling center field for the Marlins — if not at season’s start, then soon after — as the team’s first Rule 5 Draft success story since 2005 when Dan Uggla was plucked out of baseball’s surplus pile. Uggla turned into the quintessential diamond in the rough.

              Standing on one of the practice diamonds Monday behind Roger Dean Stadium, where in two weeks the Marlins will embark on a spring training that will stand in marked contrast to their one a year ago when expectations were sky high, Silverio was asked what thoughts went through his head on Jan. 23, the one-year anniversary of his accident.

              “Time flies,” Silverio said. “It was one year ago, the accident, when I almost lost my life.”

              Now he is preparing to resume his baseball career.

              Silverio was among about 20 or so players to show up for a voluntary, pre-spring training minicamp. Other than outfielder Juan Pierre, a workaholic throughout his career, most were like Silverio: young and eager to show they belong on a major-league roster. The Marlins, essentially denuded from their after-season fire sale, have openings.

              As such, they’ll have what is believed to be a team-record 71 players in camp, all vying for 25 roster spots.

              Silverio, being a Rule 5 selection, is a special case. If he doesn’t spend the entire season on the 25-man roster, the Marlins must return him to the Dodgers. One alternative: Silverio starts the season on the disabled list. But if that’s the case, he would have to be activated at some point and spend at least 90 days on the 25-man roster.

              “I’m going to stay here,” Silverio said confidently.

              Silverio, who said he felt he was ready to break into the majors with the Dodgers in 2012 — that is, until the car accident totally altered those dreams — said he is certain this will be his year.

              “I think this is the best opportunity I’ve had in my career to reach my goals,” he said.

              Silverio is often described as a five-tool player, though he downplays his power skills. He runs, hits for average and fields his position well. With Double A Chattanooga in 2011, his last previous season before the accident, Silverio hit .306 with 85 RBI and 76 extra-base hits, including 16 home runs.

              The Marlins know that, with the accident and time off, they were taking a gamble when they selected Silverio in the Rule 5 draft in December.

              “We thought ... that it was a reasonable risk to bring him in,” Marlins president of baseball operations Larry Beinfest said. “We really like him in center field. If he’s not completely healthy, we understand that as well.”
              http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/01/2...o-restart.html

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              • #37
                Silverio, being a Rule 5 selection, is a special case. If he doesn’t spend the entire season on the 25-man roster, the Marlins must return him to the Dodgers. One alternative: Silverio starts the season on the disabled list. But if that’s the case, he would have to be activated at some point and spend at least 90 days on the 25-man roster.

                This is the plan for him,he will most likely start the year on the 60 Day DL(Even tho MLB will be checking now about Rule 5 guys and injuries) and then we will have to figure out if Gorkys,Peterson or Silverio will help out more in 2014

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                • #38
                  The Miami Marlins have been fairly criticized for not getting a better package of young players and prospects when they traded Jose Reyes, Josh Johnson, Emilio Bonifacio and Mark Buehrle for some entities that are probably completely unknown to the vast majority of people who attend Marlins games. The extreme approach of trading each and every one of their experienced productive players so quickly is understandably infuriating to fans of the Marlins baseball club. When you look at the big picture, however, the overall change of direction by Miami in 2012 might have been for the best. In the competitive National League East where the Nationals have emerged as a true powerhouse, Atlanta has assembled a well-rounded squad, and the Phillies remain dangerous, it may have been an exercise in good judgment for Miami to divest from trying to win now or anytime soon strategy, especially considering the returns in 2012.

                  Branch Rickey infamously told Ralph Kiner that the Pirates “finished last with you, we can finish last without you.” The Marlins have shed most of their bad investments, saving their money for another shot at contention when the timing is more appropriate. In the meantime, they assembled a solid collection of prospects and young players in those trades, including Jacob Turner, Justin Nicolino, Jake Marisnick, Henderson Alvarez, Derek Dietrich, Rob Brantly, Adeiny Hechavarria, and Nate Eovaldi. Along with Stanton, Jose Fernandez, and Christian Yelich, the Marlins may have created a solid foundation of young talent.

                  Another prospect that was caught by Miami in December during the Rule 5 draft was Alfredo Silverio. While Silverio is far from an elite prospect, he is yet another interesting piece that might be a part of a Miami reformulation – a cunning acquisition for a mere $50,000. As is well known, Silverio suffered a car accident last January in the Dominican Republic that caused him to miss the entire 2012 season after Tommy John surgery. Silverio was coming off his best season in the minors in the Southern League. Over 572 plate appearances, Silverio amassed 76 extra base hits including 18 triples and 16 home runs over 572 plate appearances in 2011. His 289 total bases were good enough to lead the Southern League in that category. His triple slash line was .306/.340/.542. Silverio played 81 games in center field and threw out 19 on the base paths. During the 2011 Futures Game, Silverio hit a home run off Drew Pomeranz in the sixth inning. Silverio is battling for a spot on the Marlins twenty-five man roster. After arriving at Marlins camp for a pre-spring training mini-camp, Silverio has gotten off to a decent start in spring training competition, hitting a home run and a double in his first nine at bats.

                  Looking at the readily available reports and profiles on Silverio, there are varying projections on his talent. Mike Newman provided a sound critique of Silverio’s swing that appears to be corroborated by the video included with Newman’s report from 2011. Silverio’s swing does seem, from the footage, to be stiff and out in front. On the bright side, Newman grades Silverio as a 65 base runner with the ability to steal more bases in the future. In terms of future productivity, Newman compares Silverio to Juan Encarnacion. Baseball Prospectus viewed Silverio as a solid outfielder with a plus arm. The main critique from BP was for his inability to layoff breaking balls out of the zone. BP ranked Silverio as the 7th best prospect in the Dodgers system going into last season. Baseball America was much more optimistic, ranking him 4th within the Dodgers system after 2011. BA noted his overly aggressive approach, but also cited Silverio for an ability to make adjustments.

                  The process of procuring talent outside of the obvious channels of super star free agents and the top of the first round of the amateur draft is what makes organizational development worth talking about. The developmental path of baseball players that includes some failure and deficiencies makes prospecting interesting. The future output for Silverio might never add up to much, but his statistical accomplishments and his diverse talents are compelling. The Marlins may not be executing the plan exactly as they should, but the decision to secure young talent like Silverio with minimal salary costs for several yeas was likely a wise one.
                  http://seedlingstostars.com/2013/03/...redo-silverio/
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                  • #39
                    I'm pretty confident he's gonna be a productive piece for us, if he ever really gets a chance. The injury and then other kids coming up could prevent him from ever really getting a real everyday opportunity.

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                    • #40
                      The Lara guy does not throw 100. I saw him pitch on TV yesterday. He throws 94. Sometimes.

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                      • #41
                        It's spring training...

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                        • #42
                          Chances are that he doesn't throw 100 mph, though.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Mainge View Post
                            Chances are that he doesn't throw 100 mph, though.
                            Yeah, I highly doubt he gains that much velocity as the season continues.

                            He touched 94 a couple of times yesterday, but was mostly 91-92 according to SNY.

                            I highly doubt he makes the team. 0% chance!

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                            • #44
                              Lara has been returned to Tampa Bay. Roster now stands at 39.
                              LHP Chad James-Jupiter Hammerheads-

                              5-15 3.80 ERA (27 starts) 149.1IP 173H 63ER 51BB 124K

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