2024-2025 Offseason Thread

[Nick]

the marlins are 1 sandy trade away at this point from turning a nice large quality SP surplus and no hitters into a few talented SP's with no real track record while ALSO still having no hitters

Yeah but our minor league system is middling instead of terrible. Did you think about that?

[fish16]

Yeah but our minor league system is middling instead of terrible. Did you think about that?

we have had terrible hitters for like 4 straight years and still dont have a single really elite level hitting prospect. could argue ramirez or Caba become that but to not have a single guy after 4 years of having a terrible lineup is ridiculous. the best hitter they drafted is in Sacramento.

and this isnt the early 2000s where the high payroll teams really didnt ALSO develop their farm. the dodgers and some of the other high payroll teams ALSO have some of the best farms in baseball. This team has no chance to ever compete without sherman selling and someone who can at least spend to a league average level.

[fish16]

Twins acquired Cartaya for a 20-year old pitcher who isn't on any of their Top Prospects Lists, and has an 8 ERA and hasn't pitched above DSL.

Too bad we didn't have one of those.

absurd that we have Jhonny Pereda who fucking sucks and we decided it's more important to keep him on the 40 than Banfield or make a deal for Cartaya.

[Nick]

we have had terrible hitters for like 4 straight years and still dont have a single really elite level hitting prospect. could argue ramirez or Caba become that but to not have a single guy after 4 years of having a terrible lineup is ridiculous. the best hitter they drafted is in Sacramento.

and this isnt the early 2000s where the high payroll teams really didnt ALSO develop their farm. the dodgers and some of the other high payroll teams ALSO have some of the best farms in baseball. This team has no chance to ever compete without sherman selling and someone who can at least spend to a league average level.

Thank you for responding to my tongue and cheek goof of a question with a very serious answer.

[fish16]

Thank you for responding to my tongue in cheek goof of a question with a very serious answer.

Wasn’t really a response to your post. Just talking about the team as a whole right now. I know your post was sarcastic obviously

[rmc523]

the marlins are 1 sandy trade away at this point from turning a nice large quality SP surplus and no hitters into a few talented SP's with no real track record while ALSO still having no hitters

Yup. Inexplicable…

[fish16]

we obviously all know what theyve done this offseason, but i saw a tweet that put all the moves in one place and it was pretty jarring for a team that already lost 100 games last year. No free agents signed, the only addition they made was Mervis and Wagaman, and they lost Luzardo and Burger. Yes they get sandy back, and then full seasons from guys like edwards, norby, etc. and there just has to be better health luck from the SP's in particular, but seeing all the moves together and how theyve done absolutely nothing is pretty crazy for a team that already sucked last year. But baseball is weird so they probably end up somehow being better than last year.

[rmc523]

we obviously all know what theyve done this offseason, but i saw a tweet that put all the moves in one place and it was pretty jarring for a team that already lost 100 games last year. No free agents signed, the only addition they made was Mervis and Wagaman, and they lost Luzardo and Burger. Yes they get sandy back, and then full seasons from guys like edwards, norby, etc. and there just has to be better health luck from the SP's in particular, but seeing all the moves together and how theyve done absolutely nothing is pretty crazy for a team that already sucked last year. But baseball is weird so they probably end up somehow being better than last year.

Somehow Bowden gave them a B- grade for their offseason. I give them an F…..D- if I’m being generous.

[Namaste]

Somehow Bowden gave them a B- grade for their offseason. I give them an F…..D- if I’m being generous.

If Bowden gave them a B- and you gave them a D- (if being generous) that’s a huge gap.

[Nick]

Well Bowden is notoriously a dumb guy.

[fish16]

Somehow Bowden gave them a B- grade for their offseason. I give them an F…..D- if I’m being generous.

Not sure how you can not add a single player, trade two of your best players, have the lowest payroll in baseball, and get a b-

[rmc523]

If Bowden gave them a B- and you gave them a D- (if being generous) that’s a huge gap.

You think their moves (or more accurately, lack thereof) have been worthy of anything over D-, let alone a B-?

[Namaste]

You think their moves (or more accurately, lack thereof) have been worthy of anything over D-, let alone a B-?

I was implying that it’s likely somewhere in the middle of you and Bowden.

[Nick]

I was implying that it’s likely somewhere in the middle of you and Bowden.

c'mon, they've done absolutely nothing except trade Luzardo and Burger for no one that will help us this year or probably the year after that quite frankly.

[Todd]

Jake Burger isn't very good. He's just likeable.

Luzardo has an extensive injury history and exactly one MLB quality pitch in his slider, and games when that pitch isn't working he gets rolled.

The issue isn't that these moves were made. The issue is that they were important players to begin with.