Marlins Trade Everyone to Toronto, Receive lifetime supply of Maple Syrup

[Mainge]

I said earlier that Marisnick intrigues me, but I definitely think Brantly could get something close to him. His one really good season was powered by a .370 BABIP.

Certainly the gulf between D'Arnaud and Brantly is larger than the one between Marisnick and theoretical CF spec.

[HUGG]

Here's Sickels

Adeiny Hechavarria, SS: Signed by the Blue Jays from Cuba in 2010, Hechavarria is a 5-11, 180 pound right-handed hitter and thrower, born April 15, 1989. Renowned for his defensive skills, he features above-average range and a very strong throwing arm.

His bat draws mixed reviews. He hit .312/.363/.424 in 102 games for Triple-A Las Vegas this year, but just .254/.280/.365 in 126 at-bats for the Blue Jays, with four walks and 32 strikeouts. Poor plate discipline is his biggest issue, though it looked like he was making some progress in that department before being promoted to the majors.

Jake Marisnick, OF: Marisnick was drafted in the third round in 2009, from high school in Riverside, California. He is a right-handed hitter and thrower, born March 30, 1991. His physical tools are first-class, with premium athleticism, good speed, a strong arm, and a chance to hit for power.

His glove is ahead of the bat at this point. He hit .263/.349/.451 in 266 at-bats for High-A Dunedin this year, but just .233/.286/.336 in 223 at-bats for Double-A New Hampshire. He stole 24 bases, but a hyper-aggressive approach cut too much into his hitting skills against advanced pitching. Marisnick has the physical tools to be a star, but the skills are still quite raw.

Justin Nicolino, LHP: Nicolino was drafted in the second round in 2010, from high school in Orlando, Florida. A 6-3, 190 pound lefty, he was born November 22, 1991. His 2012 season was excellent: 10-4, 2.46 with a 119/21 K/BB in 124 innings for Low-A Lansing in the Midwest League.

Nicolino works with an 88-92 MPH fastball that he locates with precision. He has an excellent changeup, and his curveball is also solid, giving him three pitches to conquer hitters with. Command and control are his best attributes, and he projects as a number three starter if all goes well.

Anthony DeSclafani, RHP: DeSclafini was drafted by the Jays in the sixth round in 2011, from the University of Florida. A 6-2, 195 pound right-hander, he was born April 18, 1990. He had a decent year alongside Nicolino in the Lansing rotation, going 11-3, 3.37 with a 92/25 K/BB ratio in 123 innings, allowing 145 hits. He got a lot of ground balls, with a 1.88 GO/AO and just three homers allowed.

Mainly a reliever in college, he was moved to the rotation as a pro to build up his innings and work on his secondary pitches. DeSclafani works with a low-90s fastball, mixing in a slider, curveball, and changeup. His control is good and he keeps the ball down, but he's hittable when he misses his spots.

The Marlins got some decent prospects here, although none of them are sure things. Hechavarria and Marisnick have loud tools, but their hitting skills are questionable. Nicolino is one of the best southpaw prospects in baseball, and he's a good pickup, while DeSclafani adds more depth to a farm system that really needs it.

The talent exchanged doesn't match what the Marlins gave up, but that wasn't the goal from Miami's point of view.

http://www.minorleagueball.com/2012/...lue-jays-trade

[MiamiHomer]

The talent exchanged doesn't match what the Marlins gave up, but that wasn't the goal from Miami's point of view.

Is it ever?

[Beef]

DeSclafani was ruined by Zunino

[FishFF]

Do they have one sellout game in 2013?

[MiamiHomer]

Camp day.
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Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS

Red Sox talked about reyes/johnson trade w/marlins. But john henry said he had no idea "the whole team was available"

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[Erick]

http://soflamarlins.com/showpost.php...3&postcount=63

What u want me to tell u the whole deal? If I do then half of the board cries and complains bout the sources and how its BS.

If Reyes isn't in the deal the deal was to be

JJ,Buck,Buehrle for d'Araund,Nicolino,a Catcher,and Alvarez

I thought u of all people would be happy I even gave actually names and not just JJ for prospects

This is hilarious. So just jj, buck and buehrle gets us the jays best prospect, but those 3 + Reyes and bonifacio included means we could no longer acquire him. You don't realize how ridiculous that sounds?

[MiamiHomer]

Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS

Hear it's $8M going from miami to toronto in big trade, not $4M (like that really matters)

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[tjfla]

This is hilarious. So just jj, buck and buehrle gets us the jays best prospect, but those 3 + Reyes and bonifacio included means we could no longer acquire him. You don't realize how ridiculous that sounds?

Something that 95% of this board can't get thru the brain is Loria just lost 96 million dollars and still got there #2 prospect(who plays CF,is younger and not coming off knee surgery) for Reyes. It is really the same thing we did with Hanley and Heath Bell except we got there #2 prospect and not just some guy.

Toronto let us pick from d'Araund,Gose and Marisnick and we picked Marisnick.

Boner was just included since we wanted Escobar(who can play 3B for us) Also the team likes Rob Brantly and we didn't have a CF of the future(Yelich is better in LF or even 1B) so what do u do with d'Araund? From what I heard(I KNOW I AM A IDIOT) we were gonna flip him for something anyway

[Todd]

Yes, what WOULD they do with arguably the top catching prospect in baseball? I can completely understand why they didnt want him.

[Jay]

I don't think anyone would have cared if they flipped him because it's about player value. You keep saying we got Marisnick for Reyes but d'Araund was in the original deal you mentioned so that isn't the case.

[oakelmpine]

Do they have one sellout game in 2013?

I really doubt it. They may get 30,000 for opening day, but crowds above 15,000 will be scarce, no matter what the official attendance is called as. Games vs Padres and Milwaukee probably draw the worst - less than 10,000 official attendance.

[Todd]

Theres a fella by the name of ... defending Loria like a boss. No one is having any of it.

[tjfla]

I don't think anyone would have cared if they flipped him because it's about player value. You keep saying we got Marisnick for Reyes but d'Araund was in the original deal you mentioned so that isn't the case.

What is so difficult to understand that if Reyes was never in the deal,d'Araund would have been in the deal and we would have prolly flipped him for a 3B/OF? We would NOT have kept him and instead since Toronto took a 96 million dollar contract off Jeff Loria's hands that we prolly helped them out some too.

This was not a total baseball decision,yes could have we still gotten d'Araund and traded him for Mike Olt or someone who is a little better than Marisnick. But instead we said give us Marisnick(your #2 prospect),pay the whole contract and u can keep d'Araund.

[lou]

Pay the whole contract of a guy who would make that on a 5 year deal in free agency.

I mean, it's not like Reyes is a shlub dump here. Yea, its backloaded. Boo fucking hoo. With all the club controlled options, they could have him on the team and not have it change jack from shit in 2015-2017. You got to pay something for good players. All deals are "backloaded" to some extent.

And if they could have gotten Arnaud and flipped him for a 3B, sign me up for that instead of Marisnick. At least Ruggiano could turn into a pretty average starter out there worst case scenario.