Derek Jeter stepping down

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What the

https://mobile.twitter.com/CraigMish...7Ctwgr%5Etweet

[fish16]

Sounds like he signed up for a rebuild followed by a spend and that Sherman isn’t willing to spend. Hopefully that’s not the case or else Sherman needs to sell the damn team

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Sounds like he signed up for a rebuild followed by a spend and that Sherman isn’t willing to spend. Hopefully that’s not the case or else Sherman needs to sell the damn team

That was my first thought, too, unfortunately.

[rmc523]

This could be 1 of 2 things:



1) Sherman doesn't want to spend like Jeter intended, as has been mentioned, which is hard to tell with the lockout. They started spending, but need to do a lot more. Did Jeter want to go after the big guns (Correa, Seager, etc. level), and Sherman wouldn't approve?

OR


2) Jeter never intended to stick around and it was all public posturing to get ownership, make some money and duck out and join a "real"/bigger club - either via an ownership percentage or as CEO - after getting experience here. I recall us speculating for a while whether he'd stick around with the 5-year term he originally signed up for.

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I can’t stop watching this clip of David Samson (who by the way thinks this is way more about revenue than philosophical differences)

https://twitter.com/pastya_/status/1...850994689?s=21

[sports24/7]

The initial thought has to be that Sherman doesn't want to spend what Jeter wants him to. But I'm curious if that's the case. If I remember correctly, there was actually pressure from Sherman for the Marlins to win now. Hopefully that's the case.

[Nick]

What a joke.

[Nick]

Sounds like he signed up for a rebuild followed by a spend and that Sherman isn’t willing to spend. Hopefully that’s not the case or else Sherman needs to sell the damn team

I don't know a damn thing about Sherman, but Jeter also never struck me as much more than a figurehead whose name was used to secure ownership of the team. So, who the fuck knows what this means?

[fish16]

I don't know a damn thing about Sherman, but Jeter also never struck me as much more than a figurehead whose name was used to secure ownership of the team. So, who the fuck knows what this means?

completely agree. while the statement is clearly drafted to make it look like sherman and jeter now have different agendas, that could just be the excuse jeter is using. He could have always intended on stepping down after 5 years and needed a reason.

To be honest, I never liked jeter all that much as the figurehead of the team because of how he clearly tries to come off in public since his Yankee days. I feel much more comfortable with Ng leading the team than jeter. He was a good face of the rebuild i guess but he really didn't do much and never said anything interesting or of any consequence.

It's a big story because it's jeter, but i really don't think jeter was doing much here on a day to day basis anyways.

[Lee Stone]

Jeter was far more than a figurehead. Despite his tiny investment, he controlled every baseball decision over the last four years. The whole front office, coaching staff, and scouting department are his people. There will be major repercussions throughout the organization. That said, I just want to watch baseball games.

[Nick]

Jeter was far more than a figurehead. Despite his tiny investment, he controlled every baseball decision over the last four years. The whole front office, coaching staff, and scouting department are his people. There will be major repercussions throughout the organization. That said, I just want to watch baseball games.

What do you have to back that up?

Obviously Jeter knew Denbo, and was probably the biggest reason Denbo and others in the FO being hired, but based on what I've gathered since they took over the team, I'm much more likely to believe that Jeter was a very hands off boss, than "he controlled every baseball decision over the last four years."

As far as the coaching staff goes. Mattingly is still here, in case you haven't noticed, and hell we've only had one full year where Michael Hill wasn't here. This new regime has never completely "made it their own" IMO, which I'll never really understand.

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Craig Mish

@CraigMish
Marlins General Manager Kim Ng will now be the key decision maker in the organization. Previously all deals went through Derek Jeter, and he leaned heavily on Gary Denbo. Now, I believe Ng will have final say on the baseball side.


Denbo is going to be gone soon I would assume now as well.

[sports24/7]

Regardless of where this thing goes now, this feels like another fuck up on the part of Rob Manfred. The Mas group always appeared to be the stronger ownership group with deeper pockets, and ties to the area. Instead, Manfred went with the Sherman group almost certainly because Jeter was involved. Now, we're left with the lesser ownership group without Jeter. Manfred is such a buffoon.

[fish16]

What do you have to back that up?

Obviously Jeter knew Denbo, and was probably the biggest reason Denbo and others in the FO being hired, but based on what I've gathered since they took over the team, I'm much more likely to believe that Jeter was a very hands off boss, than "he controlled every baseball decision over the last four years."

As far as the coaching staff goes. Mattingly is still here, in case you haven't noticed, and hell we've only had one full year where Michael Hill wasn't here. This new regime has never completely "made it their own" IMO, which I'll never really understand.

agree, he may have controlled the moves in terms of organizational hierarchy of who has the last call, but he isn't the one doing in depth scouting, working the phones, etc. he was signing off on things as the last vote.

[Nick]

Craig Mish

@CraigMish
Marlins General Manager Kim Ng will now be the key decision maker in the organization. Previously all deals went through Derek Jeter, and he leaned heavily on Gary Denbo. Now, I believe Ng will have final say on the baseball side.


Denbo is going to be gone soon I would assume now as well.

Makes you wonder who the key decision maker was in hiring Ng.