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  • Spencer: Marlins' Massive Makeover a Bust

    Posted on Wed, Jul. 11, 2012
    Miami Marlins’ massive makeover brings massive bust

    BY CLARK SPENCER
    cspencer@miamiherald.com


    Pedro Portal / Staff Photo
    Miami Marlins' acting manager Joey Cora takes the ball from pitcher Heath Bell during the top of the ninth inning of the Miami Marlins vs Houston Astros game at the Marlins Park on Saturday, April 15, 2012.
    They spent big bucks on free agents. They moved into a state-of-the-art ballpark. They hired a marquee manager. They changed their name, their color scheme and their outfits. They even started letting players wear neck chains and grow beards.
    The Marlins underwent the makeover of all Major League makeovers.

    But the results on the field haven’t changed. The new-look, gussied-up Marlins have been a mammoth bust so far.

    With a record of 41-44, the re-branded Marlins are only percentage points better at the All-Star break than last year’s 43-48 club at the same midseason mile marker. They are arguably the most glaring disappointment in all the majors.

    "You can compare the Marlins to the Facebook fiasco," said one major league scout. "High expectations and haven’t delivered."

    Instead of contending for the franchise’s first-ever division title, the Marlins are sitting just ahead of last-place Philadelphia in the National League East -- nine games behind the first-place Nationals and five games out in the wild card race.

    There is still time for the Marlins to turn it around.

    They were, after all, the hottest team in baseball in May, going 21-8. But the odds are stacked against them, especially with their only bonafide All-Star -- Giancarlo Stanton -- out of commission for the next four to six weeks following knee surgery.

    If there is little or no improvement in the second half, both on the field and at the turnstiles, the Marlins could be looking at another offseason roster overhaul, one that involves a toned-down look and lower payroll.

    MID-SEASON REPORT CARD:

    •HITTING: The addition of Jose Reyes and a healthy Hanley Ramirez were expected generate a more potent lineup. It hasn’t worked out that way. The Marlins rank in the bottom third of all National League teams in batting average, runs scored, and hitting with runners in scoring position. Five of the team’s Opening Day starters -- Reyes, Ramirez, Logan Morrison, Gaby Sanchez and John Buck -- have underperformed at the plate while another, Emilio Bonifacio, has missed significant time with an injury. Only Stanton and second baseman Omar Infante have produced desired results. Grade: D

    •PITCHING: The Marlins signed a pair of high-priced free agents, starter Mark Buehrle and closer Heath Bell, while trading for starter Carlos Zambrano in a bid to shore up a pitching staff that also welcomed the return of staff ace Josh Johnson. But the arms haven’t added up to a collective improvement on the mound. Bell has been a disaster. Johnson hasn’t dominated. Zambrano has been erratic. As a unit, the starting staff is merely average, though it might have pressed when the offense disappeared in June. The bullpen, burdened by Bell’s repeated failings, has struggled. Grade: C -

    •FIELDING: There are no Gold Glove candidates on this club. Even steady second baseman Omar Infante hasn’t looked as sharp defensively as he did last season. While Ramirez has adapted to third base with general success, the player who forced him out of a job at short -- Reyes -- has been uneven. Neither of the Marlins’ young corner outfielders, Morrison and Stanton, are remotely close to polished, and Morrison will likely wind up at first base, where he is better suited. Grade: C -

    •MANAGING/COACHING: One of Ozzie Guillen’s favorite catch-phrases is that players win and managers lose. If that’s the case, then Guillen -- by his own definition -- is falling short in his first season at the helm. He stuck with Bell too long, perhaps under pressure from a front office that is on the hook with the closer for three years, and the decision cost the Marlins in the standings. On the other hand, Guillen is managing for the first time in the National League and is only halfway into his first season of a four-year contract. Grade: C

    Saving the game

    Heath Bell has six “blown saves,” but a handful of his failures don’t qualify under the strict definition of the term. Here’s the complete file of Bell’s breakdowns this season:

    •April 8 at Cincinnati: Marlins are leading 5-4 in the 9th, but Bell gives up two runs as the Marlins lose 6-5 to the Reds. Blown Save No. 1.

    •April 14 vs. Houston: Marlins are leading 4-1 in the 9th, but Bell gives up four runs in a 5-4 loss. Blown Save No. 2.

    •April 26 at New York: Marlins are leading 2-1 in the 9th, but Bell gives up two runs in a 3-2 loss. Blown Save No. 3.

    •May 2 at San Francisco: Marlins are leading 2-0 in the 9th, but Bell is lifted for Steve Cishek after the Giants score twice to tie it and send game to extra innings. Marlins won 3-2 in the 10th. Not a blown save since Cishek inherited the save situation from Bell.

    •May 4 at San Diego: Marlins are leading 8-7 in the 9th, but Bell gives up the tying run. Marlins eventually win 9-8 in the 12th. Blown Save No. 4.

    •May 13 vs. New York Mets -- Marlins are tied 2-2 with Mets in the 9th, but Bell gives up two runs as Mets take the lead. Marlins score six in the bottom of the 9th to pull out victory. Bell, as the pitcher of record, is credited with the win.

    •May 25 vs. San Francisco: Marlins take a 7-4 lead into the 9th. But after Giants rally for two runs to trim the lead, Bell is lifted and Steve Cishek is brought in to preserve a 7-6 win.

    •May 26 vs. San Francisco: Marins take a 5-2 lead into the 9th. But Bell is lifted for the second straight night when he gives up a run. Randy Choate brought in to preserve 5-3 win.

    •June 25 vs. St. Louis: Marlins lead 6-2 in the 9th. But Bell gives up four runs and Cardinals win 8-7 in the 10th. Not a blown save since Bell did not enter in a save situation.

    •July 3 at Milwaukee: After overcoming a 9-2 deficit and taking an 12-11 lead in the 10th, Bell gives up a two-run homer to Aramis Ramirez and Marlins lose 13-12. Blown Save No. 5

    •July 8 at St. Louis: Marlins take a 4-2 lead into the 9th. Bell gives up three runs in the 9th as Cardinals rally for a 5-4 victory. Blown Save No. 6.

    Math is not right

    While the Marlins are just 41-44, they should consider themselves lucky.

    According to the “Pythagorean expectation” formula created by Bill James, one that is based simply on runs scored and runs allowed, the Marlins “should” be 37-48 and languishing in last place.

    The Marlins have been outscored by 56 runs, the sixth-worst differential in the majors.

    Here is a comparison of the actual National League East standings, and how the standings would look if James’ formula is applied:

    Actual Standings

    Team W L GB
    Washington 49 34 --
    Atlanta 46 39 4
    New York 46 40 4 1/2
    Miami 41 44 9
    Philadelphia 37 50 14
    Pythagorean Standings

    Team W L GB
    Washington 48 35 --
    Atlanta 46 39 3
    New York 45 41 4 1/2
    Philadelphia 41 46 9
    Miami 37 48 12
    Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/07/1...#storylink=cpy

  • #2
    Meh, things are skewed by some epic ass-beatings.
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    • #3
      Gotta fill them column inches, y'all. This is the slowest sports week of the year!
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      Anyone actually get the Herald anymore here? I'm guessing they've gone with 6-page sports sections the last few days, right?
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      Look at Clark Spencer using Bill James' stats. Fill them inches up!
      Last edited by Bobbob1313; 07-11-2012, 11:58 PM. Reason: Doublepost Merged
      poop

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      • #4
        "You can compare the Marlins to the Facebook fiasco," said one major league scout. "High expectations and haven’t delivered."
        What a quote

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        • #5
          So if Bell were perfect in save opportunities (this excludes those "failures" that weren't blown saves but resulted in wins), the team would be 47-38, 2nd place, 3 games out in the NL East, and tied for 1st in the Wild Card.

          Guess you can always play the "coulda, shoulda, woulda" game but interesting to see where they'd be.

          Fritz, I was thinking the same thing, several huge blowout losses there in June.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by rmc523 View Post
            So if Bell were perfect in save opportunities (this excludes those "failures" that weren't blown saves but resulted in wins), the team would be 47-38, 2nd place, 3 games out in the NL East, and tied for 1st in the Wild Card.

            Guess you can always play the "coulda, shoulda, woulda" game but interesting to see where they'd be.

            Fritz, I was thinking the same thing, several huge blowout losses there in June.
            Yet but Bell is a large part of this massive makeover and he is going to continue to get worse. It was a ridiculously stupid deal for a declining closer. The blown saves and now limited budget are the consequences of poor F.O. decisions.

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            • #7
              Bell doesn't have to get worse. He's a reliever, he could very well be lights out next season

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              • #8
                Don't his declining stats suggest its more likely he'll continue to decline as opposed to improving?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Ramp View Post
                  Bell doesn't have to get worse. He's a reliever, he could very well be lights out next season
                  Well yea. Nobody has to do anything. Using that reasoning though I'd say it's likely with Reyes hitting 30 next year and being a player with little power who relies on speed and athleticism he will continue to get worse next season and beyond.

                  I hated this off-season and the moves we made, if you can't tell.

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                  • #10
                    I just mean that relievers' numbers fluctuate like crazy sometimes

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                    • #11
                      To add evidence to Ramp's statement:

                      age ERA SV
                      33 4.98 33
                      34 5.36 1
                      35 2.34 42
                      36 2.97 45
                      37 6.52 24
                      38 3.25 43

                      I'll let you guess who's numbers these are.

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                      • #12
                        seriously, we're using Jose Fucking Mesa as a comparable? Jose Mesa was a converted starter. Jose Mesa had a lot more innings on his arm when he was 34 than Bell does. Jose Mesa did not ever sign a $27 million contract. Jose Mesa did not ever have huge expectations, in fact he was so bad in his age 33 season for a losing Mariners team that they went out and got Kaz Sasaki. Jose Mesa never made an All-Star Team as a closer, let alone 3 in a row. Jose Mesa is not comparable to Heath Bell in any way except that they are both fat right handed closers.
                        Originally posted by Madman81
                        Most of the people in the world being dumb is not a requirement for you to be among their ranks.
                        Need help? Questions? Concerns? Want to chat? PM me!

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                        • #13
                          It doesn't matter. It proves the fucking point that a closer/reliever can go from horrible one year to lights out or serviceable the next.

                          And are you fucking seriously complaining he is a converted starter? How does that make a difference? And all star appearances? Really does that make a difference?

                          The only comparison being drawn is that relievers can be awful one year and good the next even after their prime years.

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                          • #14
                            That was some response by the virus

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                            • #15
                              I mean, then use a different guy if that's the point you're trying to prove. There have been like 8 closers who have lost their jobs this year alone. We know relievers' stats vary, we didn't need to play the guessing game with Jose Mesa to find that out.
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                              guys, don't be discouraged by Ryan Webb's stats this year.

                              Age ERA SV
                              25 2.48 0
                              26 8.31 0
                              27 4.89 1
                              28 3.50 11
                              29 1.91 12
                              30 2.13 5

                              I'll let you guess who that was
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                              give up? it was Alejandro Pena
                              Last edited by emkayseven; 07-13-2012, 12:44 PM. Reason: Doublepost Merged
                              Originally posted by Madman81
                              Most of the people in the world being dumb is not a requirement for you to be among their ranks.
                              Need help? Questions? Concerns? Want to chat? PM me!

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