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Does anyone know where I can find the official documents stating how the financing of the stadium would work?
That should be public record, no?
That should be public record, no?
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http://www.miamidade.gov/ballpark/li..._agreement.pdf
According to the paperwork above, as I'm reading it, the city was in charge of the design, and construction of the parking garages, which means they were the ones that didn't build enough spots for the fans.
Am I reading that wrong?
If not, why isn't the city taking the heat for not having enough parking?Comment
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Perhaps because there is plenty of parking at and around the ballpark to accomodate 37,000 fans? Somehow 75,000 fans were able to park at the OB for football games, so 37K should be able to find parking for baseball games. Besides, having about 6,000 on-site parking spots is probably more then most ballparks built in downtown/residential areas.Originally posted by Jorge18 View Post
People are making a bigger deal about this then really it is. People find places to park in downtown Miami for Heat games and they have far less on-site parking then the Marlins will have.Comment
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Exactly. It would look like Sun Life Stadium...Originally posted by SandroimbutoComment
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The garages would overshadow the actual ballpark. And it would take 4 hours to get out of them. Then people would complain about that...it's a never ending cycle.Originally posted by SandroimbutoComment
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So you do or do not think the city should be taking heat? Do you think they should make one parking spot per fan?Comment
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No, I don't think anyone should be taking the heat. I think they made the right call by putting that amount of parking around it. Anymore than that and it would look like sky rises of parking garages.Originally posted by Beef View Post
Does anyone know a definitive amount of parking spots that were available at the Orange Bowl site? I can't seem to find the number anywhere.Comment
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Heat games also have a more favorable public transit situation, private lots that are close by, and significantly less people to worry about. The situations aren't very comparable at the moment.Originally posted by fauowls44 View Post- DaftGod would be expecting a first pitch breaking ball in the dirt because humans love to disappoint him.Comment
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You don't necessarily know that. All we know is that the marlins park has the potential to accommodate more people.Originally posted by Omar View PostComment
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I have a feeling that this is something that's being thought of, but they want to see what the stadium draws before they throw money into it.Originally posted by Sandroimbuto
I think if the Marlins are relavent and draw atleast on average 30k they'll do it.Comment
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This will probably something Samson will be lobbying for in the near future.Originally posted by SandroimbutoComment
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1) The parking garages really did not have a required capacity in the Baseball Stadium Agreement. They did agree upon 5,600 but it wasn't mandatory. Miami and the Marlins agreed they would not spend a penny over $93 million no matter how far below under 5,600 they came. As far as I know, they came in on time and on budget.
2) I would not want any more garages on the site. As it is now, the garages do take away from the stadium. Putting garages on the NW and West lots would have been overkill.
3) The East-West line had a price tag of something absurd like $2 billion 6-7 years ago. The section alone from Government Center to MIA, which would have included the stadium, was going to cost $1 billion all by itself because it was going to be partially underground. Doing something like that now is probably $2.5 billion.
4) The East-West line has been dead for 5-6 years. Miami-Dade Transit is a mess and has been forced to reroute the People's Transportation Plan money towards day-to-day operations and maintenance. This means there is very little money to guarantee the County would have enough money to meet federal standards for matching. The fund has been so poorly mismanaged that Metro-Rail trains are operating almost 10 years passed their design specifications.
5) Projected ridership numbers for the EW line puts Miami very low on the list of potential cities to receive federal money.
6) Even if Miami were able to put together a respectable proposal for Metro-Rail expansion, the North corridor is probably higher on their list of priorities because more work has been done and it would be much cheaper.
7) I think the parking situation has been dramatized by the Miami Herald (go figure). That site and the area surrounding it could handle 80,000 people just a few years ago. What has changed?
8) During the exhibition games, lots across the river, which have been talked about by the Marlins, were not utilized.
9) I e-mailed Samson about passes for fans. We replied with "interesting idea" for FWIW.
10) I just wanted 10 points.Comment
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Wouldn't just extending a track of the Metro Mover to or near the ballpark be a better suggestion than expanding the metro rail.Comment
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Get to work on those Sandro.Comment
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