Marlins, Jeff Francis to Meet

[Metes]

He's never been a strikeout pitcher but yikes, 4.48 K rate last year

My memory was a lot rosier than reality

He's never really outperformed his mid-4 FIP
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Yuck, he would be as bad as Volsad, possibly even worse

[Bobbob1313]

Yeah, fuck getting a backup ace starter. We'll just sign Pujols and a #4 starter and call it an offseason.

You're upset about that?

[Jay]

He's never been a strikeout pitcher but yikes, 4.48 K rate last year

My memory was a lot rosier than reality

He's never really outperformed his mid-4 FIP
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Yuck, he would be as bad as Volsad, possibly even worse

1.4 WAR replacing a .1 WAR would be an improvement.

[THE_REAL_MIBS]

You're upset about that?

No. I would be happy with that. Maybe I should have put an exclamtion point at the end of the sentence instead of a period...

[Beef]

I think it was the sarcastic sentence before that one.

An exclamation mark would have made the last sentence seem extra sarcastic

[dim]

Yeah, fuck getting a backup ace starter. We'll just sign Pujols and a #4 starter and call it an offseason.

You are the worst kind of person.

EDIT: Still looks like a sarcastic statement to me.

[Ramp]

/did not think it was sarcasm

[THE_REAL_MIBS]

Yeah, fuck getting a backup ace starter. We'll just sign Pujols and a #4 starter and call it an offseason.

/totally serious

Better?

[Metes]

1.4 WAR replacing a .1 WAR would be an improvement.

I'm looking at Fangraphs where he was actually a 2.6

I'm confused at how a guy that went 6-16 with a 4.81 ERA is a 2.6 win player

I guess he doesn't walk guys

[Chewford]

You can never have enough Jeffs in the organization.

[Jay]

I'm looking at Fangraphs where he was actually a 2.6

I'm confused at how a guy that went 6-16 with a 4.81 ERA is a 2.6 win player

I guess he doesn't walk guys

I was using baseballreference but still 2.6 is better than 1.3

[Metes]

Looking at their stats side by side, they're actually very similar pitchers

Basically the same career K/9 and HR/9, very similar FIP and ERA numbers, Chris with a slightly higher BB rate

I can see them having roughly the same success and costing about the same, with Francis' ability to limit BBs providing more upside

[nny]

Difference is Coors, though he still gave up career HR #'s in pitchers park this year. But that's the difference for WAR, park factors

[kusch]

Cardinal's are looking to move Lohse and maybe Westbrook:

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/1...yle-lohse.html

[Metes]

Looking at their stats side by side, they're actually very similar pitchers

Basically the same career K/9 and HR/9, very similar FIP and ERA numbers, Chris with a slightly higher BB rate

I can see them having roughly the same success and costing about the same, with Francis' ability to limit BBs providing more upside

I just changed my mind on this and think Volstad has more upside

As indicated by his 3.64 xFIP in 2011, if he can get his fucking HR/FB down, he'd actually be at least a league average starter. I'm thinking the new park may help that naturally as well.

I can't believe I find myself saying Volstad and upside in the same post