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  • @BenBadler Marlins' Jose Fernandez w/ 8 strikeouts in 5 shutout innings on his 20th birthday. Solid chance he's in the big leagues by 21.
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    Originally posted by Madman81
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    • Fernandez, who was 7-0 in Greensboro, has put up jaw-dropping stats in his first pro season. He's a combined 14-1 with a 1.75 ERA in 25 starts, with 35 walks and 158 strikeouts in 134 innings pitched. Opposing hitters are batting just .191 against the Cuban-born star-in-the-making, who turned 20 on July 31.
      http://www.news-record.com/blog/56101/entry/151665
      Originally posted by Madman81
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      • Opposing hitters are batting just .191 against the Cuban-born star-in-the-making, who turned 26 on July 31.
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        • ehe it's still funny
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          i'm not being sarcastic btw
          Last edited by emkayseven; 09-01-2012, 08:49 PM. Reason: Doublepost Merged
          Originally posted by Madman81
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          • It's never gonna stop being funny

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            • John Sickels has a thread discussing the Marlins' handling of him here: http://www.minorleagueball.com/2012/...ndez#storyjump

              some interesting discussion over there
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              • in his "prospectapalooza" which is basically a chat thread Sickels was asked who would lead MLB in strikeouts in 2022 and he said Fernandez. He's very high on him.
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                • would be impressive for a 35 year old

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                  • he said 2022, not 2012 Hugg
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                    • Named Marlins' Minor League Pitcher of the Year (duh)

                      Fernandez, 20, posted a 14-1 record with a 1.75 ERA (134.0 IP/26 ER) between low-A Greensboro and high-A Jupiter. He began his season by going 7-0 in 14 starts for Greensboro, earning Marlins Pitcher of the Month honors in April and South Atlantic League Mid-Season All-Star honors prior to being promoted to Jupiter on June 25. With the Hammerheads, the 2011 first-round selection (14th overall) went 7-1 with a 1.96 ERA (55.0/12) in 11 starts and earned wins in six of his last seven games to garner Marlins Pitcher of the Month honors for August.
                      http://miami.marlins.mlb.com/news/ar...r_mia&c_id=mia

                      not too bad for a 28 year old
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                      • BA's #1 prospect in the Florida State League

                        http://www.minorleagueball.com/2012/...ague-prospects
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                        and ALSO named the #1 prospect in the Sally League

                        http://www.baseballamerica.com/today...2/2614131.html
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                        • Jon Sickels ranks him #2 pitcher (behind Dylan Bundy) in his preliminary top 50 2013 pitchers ranking

                          http://www.minorleagueball.com/2012/...-list-for-2013
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                          • The Miami Marlins' farm system hasn't been very productive in recent years, especially when it comes to starting pitching, but that could be about to change.

                            Right-hander Jose Fernandez, the Marlins' first-round pick in 2011 out of Tampa Alonso High School, is featured on the cover of the current Baseball America magazine. Fernandez, ranked the top prospect in both leagues he graced this season (South Atlantic and Florida State), is deemed "among the elite" by the BA coverline.

                            On pages 24-25, we learn Fernandez is a strike-thrower with a fastball that sits at 93-97 mph and topped out at 99 mph in his final start of the season. He didn't throw a single fastball under 95 mph in that final outing.

                            When he loses fastball command, BA's J.J. Cooper writes, Fernandez "responds by throwing his hard-breaking curveball and potentially average changeup more often early in the count to get ahead of hitters."

                            That's a very good sign for a young pitcher, especially one who doesn't turn 21 until next July 31. (note: yeah right)

                            So is this from Jupiter manager Andy Haines: "He's a tremendous teammate. This team is important to him. Winning is very important to him. ... He has the mentality of a true No. 1 pitcher."

                            Conditioning is already a bit of a concern for Fernandez, taken 14th overall and given a $2 million signing bonus.

                            "If he doesn't watch his weight, he could balloon as he matures," Cooper writes of the 6-3, 215-pounder.

                            Even if Fernandez becomes Livan Lite, it's not hard to see him pushing for a spot in the Marlins' rotation by the second half of 2013. Along with Jacob Turner and Nathan Eovaldi, he could give the Marlins a high-ceiling, low-cost Big Three to take them into the middle of the decade.
                            http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/201...jose-fernandez

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                            • he won an MiLBY Award for staff choice - best starting pitcher

                              The story of Jose Fernandez is one of arrival.

                              In April 2008, the then-15-year-old Cuban was fleeing his native country. Four-and-a-half years later, he stood in Miami's Marlins Park after trying to tell the team that he didn't want to be there because he didn't think he deserved to be there, or be there yet anyways.

                              But after a season -- his first full one in professional baseball -- when the right-hander put up a 14-1 record, a 1.75 ERA and 158 strikeouts in 134 innings between two levels -- the Marlins' No. 2 prospect has earned any and all accolades coming his way, including the organization's Pitcher of the Year award, the winning of which brought him to Marlins Park in the first place and now our MiLBY for best starting pitcher in the Minors.

                              In other words, Jose Fernandez has arrived.

                              * * *

                              After being drafted 14th overall by the Marlins in the 2011 First-Year Player Draft, Fernandez's story became more and more well known to those who hadn't previously studied the biographies of draft prospects closely.

                              His father had left their native Cuba for American shores in 2005, and he, along with his mother, had tried to make the same emigration journey but were unsuccessful on the first three attempts. The most dramatic came on an occasion when his mother fell out of their escape boat. The young teenager jumped out to save her, but the incident meant another trip back to the island under Castro's rule, where they endured imprisonment both in the home and behind bars.

                              He finally escaped in 2008 and settled in the Tampa Bay area. Soon, while taking the mound at the area's Alonso High School, the right-hander let loose the pitching skills -- a mid-90s fastball, plus breaking stuff -- he had honed in the Caribbean. It was there that he began to garner national attention as a potential first-round pick alongside the likes of established collegiate stars Gerrit Cole and Trevor Bauer and fellow high-school phenoms like Dylan Bundy and Bubba Starling.

                              But despite the spotlight, Fernandez's gaze never truly strode from his homeland.

                              "I tried four times to escape from Cuba," Fernandez told MiLB.com in late April. "I got caught three times -- I was in jail in Cuba, I got kicked out of school, I was placed under house arrest. It's tough over here; a lot of my family's still over there."

                              It was that background that caught the attention of the front office of the then-Florida Marlins in June 2011 and led the team in the heart of the most prominent Cuban population in the country to take him with its first draft pick.

                              "What he's gone through, it's made him a stronger person and player," said Marlins vice president of player development Marty Scott. "The adversity he's had to face, coming to a foreign country and having to learn the American way of doing things, of doing everything, is hard on anybody. I think the whole thing has made him appreciate baseball and more importantly life itself."

                              That being said, the teenager never let go of his own sense of style.

                              Scott said that at the beginning of Spring Training -- Fernandez's first in professional baseball -- he saw the team's latest first-rounder tote an orange glove. The executive told the player it may not be the best idea to use such a flashy piece of equipment that brings with it perhaps unnecessary attention.

                              "I told him about a stepson of mine who was going out for a basketball team but had the really fancy shorts and shoes that kind of made him stand out, but not in a good way," said Scott. "I told Jose, 'It's one of those things where you're going to have to walk the walk if you're going to talk the talk with something like that.'"

                              In order to make sure he understood the lesson of the fable, Fernandez made sure to ask a simple question.

                              "Do you mean if I'm going to have this orange glove, I'm going to have to dominate everyone else?"

                              When Scott readily agreed to that sentiment, the pitcher boiled down his response to three words.

                              "OK, I will."


                              * * *

                              The Marlins placed Fernandez at Class A Greensboro to begin the year, and he was coming through on his bold prediction early on. The 6-foot-3 hurler struck out 10 over six innings in his debut and eventually gave up only four combined earned runs in his first three starts.

                              Then on April 24, he tossed six innings of hitless ball and led the Grasshoppers to the first no-hitter of the Minor League season. However, it wasn't the first no-no in his baseball career -- he had participated in four of them at Alonso High School including a perfect game -- and it was perhaps for that reason that the rookie was already handling the feat like a seasoned veteran.

                              "My life has been pretty rough, and I just think about trying to get my goals," he told MiLB.com right after the no-hitter. "It helps to go out there and work hard every day and throw strikes. I love winning -- that's what I play this sport for. I like to win, I love my teammates and I love the game."

                              But as is the case in the life of a pitcher, some fifth days are better than others.

                              Scott said he went to see the organization's prized pitcher in Greensboro on May 16 for a start against Kannapolis, and the early results were slightly discouraging.

                              "He walked the first two batters he saw on eight pitches," Scott remembered. "It was obvious he didn't have his best stuff. But he got out of the inning after giving up just a run, pitched OK the rest of the way and got a no-decision. [The Grasshoppers won, 10-8, in 11 innings.]

                              "Afterwards I went up to him and asked him about the outing and he told me, 'I learned something about myself and my pitching, and now I know what to do to improve.' He could have been angry or upset, but he seemed to handle it in stride. I think that said something about his attitude and the kind of kid he's been for us."

                              Fernandez didn't allow another run for a month, a time spanning five starts and 24 innings.


                              He was called up to Class A Advanced Jupiter in late June, after going 7-0 with a 1.59 ERA during his time in Greensboro but faced struggles once again. Between June 28 and July 4, he allowed four and three earned runs both against St. Lucie -- the first time he had surrendered more than three tallies in consecutive starts in 2012.

                              The right-hander seemed to figure out the issues over his next two outings, giving up just three combined runs while striking out 11 over 10 innings. But if there was any doubt at that point about his ability to assimilate to the new level, it was soon erased.

                              Fernandez went 6-0 over a seven-start stretch to finish the season, giving up only two earned runs over that time. Despite never pitching into the sixth inning by order of the team, he struck out eight on three occasions and never allowed more than four hits.

                              He finished 7-1 with a 1.96 ERA in Jupiter and 14-1 with a 1.75 on the season, seventh- and second-best in the Minors respectively. He also ranked in the top 15 for strikeouts (158, 13th), WHIP (0.93, first) and opponents batting average (.191, fourth).

                              "Hitting the 90s consistently with his fastball, that helps," said Scott. "He knows he's going to have better control of his breaking ball as it goes along, but that's certainly a solid pitch as well. The more I saw him pitch, I noticed he wasn't using his changeup because he didn't need it, but I don't think that's a pitch that's going to get away from him either. It's exciting."

                              * * *

                              At year's end, Miami invited Fernandez to Marlins Park to be honored alongside 2010 first-round pick Christian Yelich as the organization's Player and Pitcher of the Year award winners.

                              But the problem was Fernandez didn't want to go, telling reporters, "I didn't want to come, but I had to. That wasn't my plan. I wanted to come when it was my time to come [to the Majors]. ... I'm happy to be here, it's just a little thing I had."


                              Scott told a slightly different story, saying that although there was some reluctance on the pitcher's part, it melted away once he got the excitement of meeting some of the club's Major League players in their own house.

                              Still, there were a few moments that made the Marlins executive remember precisely with whom he was dealing.

                              "We're a pretty young club, so instead of hanging pictures of a long history, we have pictures up of the game's greats like Joe Dimaggio and Ted Williams," Scott said. "I'm asking [Fernandez] who these people are, and he couldn't tell me any of them.

                              "We got back down to the field, and there was a big picture of Babe Ruth there. 'You have to know who that is, Jose,' I told him. 'Of course,' he said. 'That's Baby Ruth.'"


                              * * *

                              The future plans for Fernandez are still up in the air. While some believe the native Cuban might deserve a shot at Major League camp during Spring Training, Scott would argue that such a move would only be worth face value and not do much to aid the pitcher's growth if he's only going to be sent down anyways.

                              Either way, the Marlins know precisely what they have in front of them, waiting for his scheduled arrival.

                              "He's a special person," Scott said. "He eats, breathes, lives baseball. You know, being a Cuban defector, his background is a story in itself, but he's a special guy who works on everything he does and just wants to be something great here in the game of baseball."
                              http://www.milb.com/news/article.jsp...vkey=news_milb
                              Originally posted by Madman81
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                              • I really hope he works out and is a beast. I like his cockiness. It's a good cockiness, not a bad, Josh Beckett-type arrogance.
                                LHP Chad James-Jupiter Hammerheads-

                                5-15 3.80 ERA (27 starts) 149.1IP 173H 63ER 51BB 124K

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