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  • Javier Vazquez 2011: The Man With The Epic Turnaround

    By Juan C. Rodriguez, Sun Sentinel

    6:52 PM EST, February 26, 2011

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    JUPITER During a 10-year span from 2000-09, Javier Vazquez averaged over a dozen wins, 216 innings and 200 strikeouts. He didn't come close to matching those number as a member of the Yankees last season, but Vazquez remains in elite company when it comes to consistency.

    A season of double-digit wins with at least 157 innings and 120 strikeouts would be Vazquez's 12th in a row. Only 12 modern era pitchers — Steve Carlton (18), Gaylord Perry and Don Sutton (15), Bob Gibson, Phil Niekro and Greg Maddux (14), Tom Seaver (13), and Christy Mathewson, Walter Johnson, Don Drysdale, Mickey Lolich and Mike Mussina (12) — have achieved those thresholds in that many consecutive seasons.

    Sunday, Vazquez will take another step toward becoming the 13th member of that group. He'll make his Florida Marlins debut in the 1:05 p.m. exhibition opener against the University of Miami at Roger Dean Stadium. Vazquez, like the rest of his fellow starters in the coming days, will be limited to two innings.

    "It's always different when you come to a new team," said Vazquez, who signed a one-year, $7 million free-agent deal. "You want to start with your right foot forward, but I understand it's the first game and the reason we're pitching is to get ready for the season."

    Of the aforementioned 12 pitchers, Carlton (1967-84), Maddux (1988-01) and Mussina (1995-06) are the only ones whose streak encompassed any seasons this side of 1980. How hard is it to consistently reach those numbers nowadays? C.C. Sabathia (10), Johan Santana and John Lackey (8), and Dan Haren (6) are the lone pitchers who have active runs of at least six 10-win, 120-strikeout, 150-inning seasons.

    "I feel blessed that I've had the opportunity to play so many years and be healthy," Vazquez said. "Those are things I take a lot of pride in and I work hard to maintain that. I've always said I've been blessed by God to have the ability and the health. It can't be luck. I don't believe in luck."

    Already the game's all-time winningest Puerto Rican pitcher (152), Vazquez needs 43 strikeouts to eclipse Luis Tiant for second among Latin pitchers. Dominican-born Pedro Martinez with 3,154 is atop that list with 780 more than Vazquez.

    He is No. 40 on the all-time strikeout list. Should he match his 157 of a year ago, Vazquez would ascend to No. 29, passing Hall of Famers Sandy Koufax, Dennis Eckersley, Don Drysdale and Mathewson along the way. With 210 strikeouts in 2011, he'd lap three more Hall of Famers — Tim Keefe, Bob Feller and Warren Spahn and sit at No. 25 all-time.

    Said manager Edwin Rodriguez: "From what we've seen in spring training and the shape he's in, the condition of his arm, I think he has everything he needs to [reach those numbers] again."
    http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/f...35,print.story

  • #2
    Damn, he's one helluva stat compiler.
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    • #3
      He topped out vs. Miami at

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      • #4
        JCR said he's been between 89-91 for his last few starts. If he can average around 90, he should be ok.
        poop

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        • #5
          Javy's average fastball is sitting at 88.8 right now. That's down -.02 from last year and -2.4 from 2009.

          Fastball last night was exceptionally flat.



          Last edited by Party; 04-10-2011, 09:52 PM.

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          • #6
            Hopefully he's still building velocity and gets himself right. It seemed his velocity was increasing with his innings pitched.
            Last edited by Mainge; 04-10-2011, 10:03 PM.

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            • #7
              You would be correct:

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              • #8
                2008 april: 91.5 (5 starts, 188 fastballs)
                By start: 90.8 -> 92.0 -> 91.2 -> 91.5 -> 92.1
                2008 average: 91.9

                2009 april: 90.4 (5 starts, 251 fastballs)
                By start: 90.4 -> 89.7 -> 91.0 -> 90.2 -> 90.8
                2009 average: 91.1

                2010 april: 89.2 (4 starts, 172 fastballs)
                by start: 89.6 -> 89.1 -> 89.0 -> 89.2
                2010 average: 88.9

                2011: 88.4 (2 starts, 92 fastballs)
                by start: 88.4 -> 88.5

                I don't think it's coming back. The three years prior, he's averaged a 0.26 MPH difference in his april v.s. total season velo.

                http://www.joelefkowitz.com/pitch.php

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                • #9
                  Maybe not but I wouldn't be surprised if it takes an older Javier Vasquez a little longer to stretch out than a few years ago.

                  His velocity increasing like it did in his last start has me hopeful.

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                  • #10
                    It was just 0.1 MPH, and so far his velo is lower than it was last year in April by almost a full MPH.

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                    • #11
                      It only increased by 0.1?

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                      • #12
                        NNY is comparing the averages over the course of the entire outing. Mainge is referencing just the later innings.

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                        • #13
                          Maybe Javy started everything later this year so we doesn't wear himself out by the ASB? It's all speculation, but if he did it would fall in line with what Mainge is saying. Don't know what the norm is for pitchers with that many miles on their arm.

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                          • #14
                            Marlins starter Javier Vazquez will have eight days between starts following Saturday's rainout, giving him time to work on a mechanical flaw manager Edwin Rodriguez and pitching coach Randy St. Claire noticed during Friday's 4-3 victory over the Phillies.

                            Rodriguez said Vazquez, who has a 7.43 ERA in three starts, has not been using his lower body properly to generate power, which in turn has diminished the velocity on his fastball and affected his location.

                            "Sometimes he's too stiff with the right leg," Rodriguez said. "It's like hitting. You have to load to generate power."

                            Rodriguez said he knew four or five pitches into Friday's game, that Vazquez's fastball would not be effective. Vazquez allowed two runs in the first inning and has given up six runs on seven hits in the first inning this season.

                            "He went from 91 (mph) to 86, 87," Rodriguez said. "I don't think that's an arm problem, that's a mechanics problem.

                            "He relies on location. He was missing location."

                            Vazquez was removed for a pinch-hitter in the top of the sixth inning after throwing just 73 pitches. He will be working with St. Claire this week before facing the Rockies on Saturday.

                            Rodriguez said this was an issue during spring training.

                            "I don't think that he's been close yet to what he's capable of doing and he's still keeping us in games," Rodriguez said. "He's going to help us a lot during the season."
                            Florida Marlins' rainout gives Javier Vazquez over a week to work on flaw in mechanics

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                            • #15
                              Uh uh. He didn't forget to fucking push off the mound.

                              If he really wasn't pushing off the mound, that's a lower body injury, not a lapse in mechanics.

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