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    There's fantasy advice towards the bottom of the article, but much of the article should bring a smile to your face on what the 2011 season could hold for Mike Stanton.

    Buster Posey and Jason Heyward garnered most of the attention among the NL rookie crop last season and rightfully so, but Mike Stanton of the Marlins was damn impressive in his own right. His 396 plate appearance debut featured a studly .248 ISO (15th highest among the 238 batters with at least 350 PA) and 22 homers, numbers that are pretty historic. The only other players with an ISO that high in that many plate appearances in their age 20 season: Mel Ott, Ted Williams, Alex Rodriguez, Bob Horner, and Frank Robinson. What does that mean for Stanton in 2011, specifically fantasy-wise?

    There’s no better place to start than with the projections, so here they are…

    Bill James: 591 PA, .268 AVG, 85 R, 38 HR, 104 RBI, 5 SB

    Fans: 649 PA, .263 AVG, 90 R, 36 HR, 106 RBI, 7 SB

    ZiPS: 666 PA, .246 AVG, 79 R, 36 HR, 98 RBI, 5 SB


    Those are some pretty hefty projections, especially when you consider that just nine players in history have received 500+ PA and hit 30+ homers at age 21 (Horner is the only one from the list above to pull off the trick). Here’s another thing: zero players have done it while striking out in at least 30% of their at-bats, something Stanton did with the Fish last year (34.3%) and in Double-A (31.0%) in parts of the last two seasons (he skipped over Triple-A). In fact, just three players (Adam Dunn, Bobby Bonds, and Pete Incaviglia) have hit 30+ homers with 30%+ strikeouts before their age 25 season. If Stanton meets the projections next summer, he’ll be in some rarefied air.

    Strike three has always been Stanton’s bane, and that’s okay. The whiffs won’t directly impact your fantasy team (unless you have some unconventional scoring or have the pitcher facing him on your roster), and his power is best defined as stupid good. The spacious ballpark in Florida isn’t much of a deterrent for him, and Stanton will run into enough mistake pitches to go deep what feels like a minimum of 25 times next season if he stays healthy. The AVG probably won’t be there, at least not right away, so .260 seems to be the upper bound of reasonable expectations. The Marlins still have a fine lineup even without Dan Uggla, so the RBI and run scoring opportunities will be there for Stanton.

    It’s very difficult to get an idea of what Stanton will do next year because he’s so unique. That young with that much power and those kinds of strikeouts issues … it’s just not something you see every day. I’ve seen him referred to a right-handed Dunn, but Dunn was in A-ball at Stanton’s age. Would it be completely surprising if he hit 40 homers in 2011? Nah, though I don’t think anyone is counting on it. Would it be a total surprise if he hit below the Mendoza line and wound up back in Triple-A with a 40%+ strikeout rate? No, not really. The range of possibilities is seemingly infinite.

    Most mock drafts I’ve seen have Stanton going in the 7th or 8th round, but I’m very intrigued. I’d much rather roll the dice on his ridiculous upside than hope Delmon Young or Corey Hart can keep it up, or see if Jacoby Ellsbury is healthy and effective.
    http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/ind...antons-encore/
    Last edited by Ramp; 02-02-2011, 02:36 PM.

  • #2
    Lock him up long term. Please.

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    • #3
      http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=10233655

      My favorite Stanton homer.

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      • #4
        I was there for his first one!
        CSBC Commish

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        • #5
          We're talking playoffs?

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          • #6
            PLAYOFFS? Talk about Playoffs?!?

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            • #7
              Pile!

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              • #8
                "I predict that there will be a pile at the end of the year!"

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                • #9
                  seriously. there's no reason to not give him a longoria-esque contract. worst case scenario - WORST case, like, everything goes wrong - he's a .240 bat with 30+ homers and double digit steals and plus defense.
                  Originally posted by Madman81
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                  • #10
                    I think double digit steals and plus defense are best case scenario.
                    poop

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                    • #11
                      how do you figure? maybe average defense is the worst case scenario, but I don't think 10 steals is out of the question as a low. maybe i'm crazy though.
                      Originally posted by Madman81
                      Most of the people in the world being dumb is not a requirement for you to be among their ranks.
                      Need help? Questions? Concerns? Want to chat? PM me!

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                      • #12
                        Not enough singles for a legit shot at 10 steals.

                        Not enough anti-goofy medicine for a legit shot at plus defense

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                        • #13
                          i assume that even in a shitty year he gon get walked a bunch, especially with the lack of power in our lineup. walks = singles
                          Originally posted by Madman81
                          Most of the people in the world being dumb is not a requirement for you to be among their ranks.
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                          • #14
                            Yeah, I was just being dicky. Double digit steals aren't out of the question as a low, but that isn't the definition of worst case scenario. As for plus defense, I agree with bob that it is not a worst case scenario. He is an athletic fellow, but he looks sillier than Josh Willingham first did when he was in LF

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                            • #15
                              Cabs was a 500 AB/30+ HR player at 21 IIRC.
                              Amy Adams, AKA Cinnamon Muff
                              Logan Morrison: "If baseball didn't exist, I would probably be ... like a curler. Or a hairstylist."
                              Noah Perio
                              Jupiter
                              39 AB
                              15 H
                              0 2B
                              0 3B
                              0 HR
                              0 BB
                              .385/.385/.385

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