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That's all well and good but I really, REALLY have a hard time seeing Ozzie as Beinfest's and Samson's puppet. Can you imagine the stuff Ozzie would have said about the bullpen and bench Fredi and Edwin have had to deal with this year? He would never keep his mouth shut and do what the front office tells him which would not gel with the current front office philosophy.
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That is why I am a fan of this. Guillen cursing out Maybin is gon be fun!
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Veteran bb man told me 2day: 2-3 weeks ago #Marlins owner Jeffrey Loria still wanted Valentine as mgr in 2011 but Samson is firmly againstComment
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Samson's a bitch.LHP Chad James-Jupiter Hammerheads-
5-15 3.80 ERA (27 starts) 149.1IP 173H 63ER 51BB 124KComment
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I'm sure Loria was against having a step son that is a homo, but he had no choice, he fell in love with the women! Loria needs to grow a dick and tell Samson that this is what he wants and Samson needs to shut the fuck up. If Samson doesn't like Valentine then he has two options, keep it to yourself, or quit you midget bitch!
* This is why family business is a bitch.Comment
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Whoa, uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh is rightComment
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shut up mimsyyyyyyyyyyyyComment
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yikes
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http://florida.marlins.mlb.com/news/...s_fla&c_id=flaMarlins' managerial search begins in earnest
Rodriguez on short list as Florida looks to decide soon
By Joe Frisaro / MLB.com
MIAMI -- The end of the season begins the Marlins' quest for a manager.
Marlins president of baseball operations Larry Beinfest said on Sunday that there is a short list of about four or five candidates. Among the choices is Edwin Rodriguez, who took over after Fredi Gonzalez was dismissed on June 23.
A few names that are receiving attention are Bobby Valentine, Jim Fregosi and Tony Pena.
"On our short list, that's probably correct, including Edwin," Beinfest said of the four or five names under review.
There is no firm timeline, but the team is looking to move fast. Not only must they determine who will be in the dugout in 2011, assembling a staff also is necessary.
"I think as quickly as possible would be the organization's preference, to have the manager and coaching staff in place," Beinfest said. "We met with all the coaches, explained the situation to them. Obviously, we need to get a manager in place, whether it's Edwin or someone else, before we can finalize the staff."
As of now, the only coach signed for next year is pitching coach Randy St. Claire, who has a two-year contract. The rest of the staff will be considered, but after a manager is in place.
"Our pitching coach Randy St. Claire is under contract for next year, so he will be back," Beinfest said. "Our other coaches who are currently in their roles will be considered. You never know how long these things are going to be."
In the upcoming days, Beinfest is expected to have more serious talks with owner Jeffrey Loria about the managing position.
The Marlins underperformed in 2010, a year that they went through a managerial change on June 23.
In the final weeks, the team was hindered by injuries. Hanley Ramirez (left elbow), Josh Johnson (back) and Ricky Nolasco (left knee) all missed substantial time.
"We never won a bunch in a row. We never really lost a bunch in a row. We never really got it going," Beinfest said. "I think a lot of people will focus on the last six weeks, with the injuries, and say that's why. But if you look back on it, we never really got it going. We never really sustained winning. We never really made a big push."
With a roster that features rookies such as Mike Stanton, Gaby Sanchez and Logan Morrison, plus veterans like Ramirez and Dan Uggla, the Marlins have a nucleus that is attractive to managerial candidates.
"One of our traits is I think we're looking to get the most out of our guys -- to extract their talent. We have some talented players here," Beinfest said. "We still have some developmental issues even in the big leagues, because we are young. We promote our players quickly and there is some finishing to do in the big leagues, aside from the winning, which is a given."
The 2011 season will be the Marlins' final one at Sun Life Stadium, and they will look to make a playoff push before moving into their new ballpark in 2012.
"We want to make the playoffs every year," Beinfest said. "We want the right guy to create the right culture -- that losing is not acceptable and winning is the only way."
Joe Frisaro is a reporter for MLB.com. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.Comment
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I find it hard to believe that Loria would put up with Ozzie, though I suppose he was a coach on the '03 team....Originally posted by mbaamin08 View Post
Hey, Girardi's contract is up.......
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Bobby Valentine emerges again as frontrunner to manage the Florida MarlinsBobby Valentine emerges again as frontrunner to manage the Florida Marlins
Joe Capozzi
Published: 4 minutes ago
On July 1, the chances of Bobby Valentine ever managing the Marlins appeared to be dead. But more than three months later, he has emerged as the front-runner to manage the club in 2011.
Valentine, who managed the New York Mets in the 2000 World Series, is Florida's "leading candidate,' a person familiar with the process said Sunday.
Valentine has been in touch with the Marlins over the last two weeks, a source said, although it's unclear whether he had a formal interview.
More important, the Marlins' job might not be Valentine's top priority. Seven other teams have managerial vacancies, so he could be keeping his options open.
"Things are getting very interesting,' said a baseball source close to the situation.
If Valentine wants the Florida job, the Marlins still would have to resolve an internal debate that has festered since late June, when the team was close to hiring him before negotiations collapsed.
Marlins owner Jeffrey Loria wants Valentine, whom he considers a close friend and is the kind of high-profile personality who could help build interest in the team while it prepares to move into its new stadium in 2012.
But team president David Samson and others in the front office are against it because, according to sources, they're reluctant to give Valentine the power he wants in personnel decisions.
On June 23, when Fredi Gonzalez was fired, the Marlins appeared close to replacing him with Valentine, an ESPN analyst who has been out of major league baseball since 2002.
Instead, a whirlwind period ended June 29 with Edwin Rodriguez, who filled in starting June 23, being hired to manage the team for the rest of the year.
Later that night, during an appearance on Baseball Tonight, Valentine blasted the Marlins' search process as "disturbing, confusing" and " insulting at times.'
Valentine, 60, has a 1,117-1,072 record in 15 seasons managing the Texas Rangers (1985-1992) and Mets (1996-2002). He managed in Japan in 1994 and 2004-09.
The Marlins have said publicly only that "four or five" candidates are on their short list. Besides Valentine and Rodriguez, those names are believed to include New York Yankees bench coach Tony Pena, Los Angeles Dodgers minor league manager Tim Wallach, Atlanta Braves scout Jim Fregosi and former Marlins third-base coach Bo Porter.
Florida also could consider former Marlins coach Ozzie Guillen if he doesn't return as manager of the Chicago White Sox.Last edited by THE_REAL_MIBS; 10-11-2010, 12:53 AM.Comment
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him?Comment
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Keep EdwinComment
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