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  • Newberg Report: Draft preparation
    Roster decisions made now will impact Rule 5 in offseason

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    Beau Jones could be selected in the Rule 5 Draft if he's left unprotected. (MiLB.com)
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    By Jamey Newberg / Special to MLB.com

    07/22/10 9:00 AM ET

    For fans of the Texas Rangers, the 2010 season has thankfully been one in which thoughts of what offseason decisions loom for the front office haven't even crept in. Handicapping who will be protected on the 40-man roster in November, and who will therefore be left exposed to the Rule 5 Draft in December, just doesn't matter as much as what could lay ahead for the Rangers in October.

    But there is a reason to think about the Rule 5 Draft in July, given the depth of draft-eligible prospects about whom Texas has winter decisions to make. Chances are the Rangers aren't done trading this month, even after the acquisitions of Cliff Lee and Bengie Molina. Texas is still looking for a right-handed corner bat and possibly a lefty specialist reliever, and it's going to take prospects to get them -- and if the club needs dollars thrown in to make the trades work, the prospects going the other way are going to be more significant than they would be otherwise.

    Since Jon Daniels has taken over as general manager, Texas has averaged three or four Minor League additions to the roster each November. The analysis on who to add involves more than just ranking your players internally and picking off the top few names. It's also assessing the chances that the players in question are the type that could be drafted (which requires that they be kept in the big leagues for all of the next season), and the odds that they'd make their new club out of spring training.

    Texas has evaluated well during the Daniels regime. The club has yet to lose a player in the Rule 5 Draft since he became General Manager after the 2005 season.

    But it gets more interesting this winter, because of a larger number of legitimate roster-eligibles than usual. And with at least one more trade likely in the next week and a half, it may very well be this class of players that the Rangers are going to be asked to part with - and that, because of the competition for 40-man roster spots, the team may be willing to deal.

    If the decisions had to be made today, it seems there would be three locks for addition to the roster: Triple-A Oklahoma City first baseman-outfielder Mitch Moreland, Double-A Frisco center fielder Engel Beltre, and high Class A Bakersfield right-hander Wilmer Font.

    But after that, there are first baseman/outfielder Chad Tracy (Oklahoma City); left-handers Beau Jones and Kasey Kiker and Ben Snyder and right-hander Evan Reed (Frisco); right-handers Wilfredo Boscan and Carlos Pimentel and outfielder David Paisano (Bakersfield); and right-handers Daniel Gutierrez and Jake Brigham (low Class A Hickory), among others.

    Right-hander Josh Lueke was a solid candidate, too, before he went to Seattle in the Lee trade.

    Take Boscan, for example. Let's say you view the 20-year-old strike-thrower, on a tremendous roll the last month and a half, as a middle-of-the-rotation candidate in two years. And you see Tracy as a capable corner bat off the bench sometime in 2011. Certainly not core players you'd refuse to trade, and maybe longshots to earn roster spots this winter, but not the type you'd feel good about losing for $50,000 in the Draft. Is a Boscan/Tracy package more than you'd want to give up for a two-month role player like Wes Helms? Probably. But if you thought one of them might be drafted away in December?

    Is it worth adding a bullpen specialist like Will Ohman for a couple power arms like Brigham and Reed? Objectively, probably not. But if you're thinking about ways to get Robinson Cano or Carl Crawford out in October? And if you think you could lose Brigham or Reed in the Draft? Maybe you're willing to overpay a bit, given the circumstances.

    Lueke was probably on that short list, along with Moreland, Beltre, and Font, of players Texas knew it would have to put on the roster this winter in order to keep them. Lueke's inclusion in the Lee trade with Seattle theoretically opens a spot for another prospect to protect, assuming Texas wants to devote four spots to players not quite ready to help.

    But the list of credible candidates is longer than just a player or two, and for that reason it wouldn't be surprising to see the Rangers part with one or more of them before the end of the month, considering the real risk that they could be lost anyway four and a half months from now.

    Jamey Newberg is a contributor to MLB.com.
    So the rangers might be throwing in a couple of nice guys since they cant protect them under the 40man next year.
    Originally posted by Matt Wilson
    Fish and Chips just became the smartest man on the board
    Tom Koehler(4-0)
    AAA: 7 GS, 40.2 IP, 2.66 ERA, 34 H, 12 ER, 17 BB, 31 SO, GO/AO 0.87, BAA .233 , 1.25 WHIP

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    • clarkspencer

      #Marlins getting closer on deal with #Rangers for Cantu
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      Originally posted by Matt Wilson
      Fish and Chips just became the smartest man on the board
      Tom Koehler(4-0)
      AAA: 7 GS, 40.2 IP, 2.66 ERA, 34 H, 12 ER, 17 BB, 31 SO, GO/AO 0.87, BAA .233 , 1.25 WHIP

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      • I was just about to post it, beat me to it.
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        Read that Marlins are finally willing to pay most, if not all, of Jorge's contract.
        Last edited by Miamarlin21; 07-29-2010, 01:46 PM. Reason: Doublepost Merged
        LHP Chad James-Jupiter Hammerheads-

        5-15 3.80 ERA (27 starts) 149.1IP 173H 63ER 51BB 124K

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        • Now that we are willing to pay all the contract watch for 1 more player to be in the deal.

          Guess they like Reed more than Jones. Looks like a decent arm
          Last edited by tjfla; 07-29-2010, 02:18 PM.

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          • it baffles my mind that this organization is so cheap they rather take back lesser players in return than pay an extra 2-2.5 mil which was already in the budget. It's not like they are adding additional payroll here.

            But with that said, it's good to see they are going to send some money Texas' way to get a better deal. Hopefully these kind of things continue in the future.

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            • 2-2.5 mil can be used on keeping our players, the draft, international signings, ect ect

              2-2.5 m is some serious dough and the prospect we get back for it better be good

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              • Any idea as to whether we are getting major league talent, that can help right now tj?

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                • I would say not as the Rangers aren't giving up anything useful for now. They're in their own playoff race.

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                  • Originally posted by nny View Post
                    2-2.5 mil can be used on keeping our players, the draft, international signings, ect ect

                    2-2.5 m is some serious dough and the prospect we get back for it better be good
                    I'd agree with this argument if the team was adding more payroll, but Cantu's salary was already factored into the budget for this season. This also doesn't strike me as the organization that would say "hey we saved 2 mil on payroll last year so let's add it to the budget next season"

                    more like "hey we saved 2 mil on payroll.. let's put it in our pockets!"

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                    • Yeah, and if that money was going to be directed anywhere it would be to paying off the $155 million for the stadium.

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                      • Originally posted by nny View Post
                        2-2.5 mil can be used on keeping our players, the draft, international signings, ect ect

                        2-2.5 m is some serious dough and the prospect we get back for it better be good
                        I highly doubt we would have used the money for the draft or international signings. It did get us another prospect in the deal tho.

                        ML talent? Nah like guys have been guessing maybe a Robbie Ross,Kasey Kiker,Font,Boscan but nothing that will help anytime soon.

                        I kept hearing they would do a deal like LA did with Callaspo,2 pitchers for Cantu and if we pay his salary they would throw in another prospect as well as make 1 pitcher better(So C to like C+ or Better)

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                        • ROSS ROSS ROSS ROSS
                          Christian Yelich
                          LF, Greensboro Grasshoppers
                          12/5/1991 - 19 years old


                          .299/.375/.461/.836
                          100-334, 24 2B, 0 3B, 10 HR, 38 BB, 74 SO, 26 SB (4 CS)

                          ------------------------------------

                          Last 10 Games:
                          .394/.512/.697/1.155

                          Last Update: 7/27/2011

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                          • if we get ross

                            West
                            James
                            Hand
                            Olmos
                            Ross

                            in a few years

                            :D

                            fuck attrition!

                            Has there ever been a team that had 5 lefties make at least, oh, 25 starts?

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                            • Originally posted by Bucklin12 View Post
                              ROSS ROSS ROSS ROSS
                              porfavor
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                              Originally posted by nny View Post
                              if we get ross

                              West
                              James
                              Hand
                              Olmos
                              Ross

                              in a few years

                              :D

                              Has there ever been a team that had 5 lefties make at least, oh, 25 starts?
                              srsly, an al lefty rotation. Wel keep JJ but JJ + 4 lefties!
                              Last edited by Ralph; 07-29-2010, 02:36 PM. Reason: Doublepost Merged
                              "You owe it to yourself to find your own unorthodox way of succeeding, or sometimes, just surviving."
                              - Michael Johnson


                              J.T. Realmuto .282/.351/.412

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                              • So everyone wants Ross?
                                LHP Chad James-Jupiter Hammerheads-

                                5-15 3.80 ERA (27 starts) 149.1IP 173H 63ER 51BB 124K

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