Transportation to the New Marlins Ballpark

[Flasportsfan88]

So Tri Rail will be available until 11 Pm on game nights and a reserve train when the game ends late??

[CrimsonCane]

Just read over the older posts. If they want to appeal to the downtown crowd, they need shuttles that'll take you both from Gov't Center and Brickell to the stadium.

A shuttle at Vizcaya is a massive waste. No one uses that station and the surrounding area is not transit friendly.

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Visuals:



Blue = MetroRail

Red = Potential Shuttle Route
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Just read over the older posts. If they want to appeal to the downtown crowd, they need a shuttles that'll take you both from Gov't Center and Brickell to the stadium.

A shuttle at Vizcaya is a massive waste. No one uses that station and the surrounding area is not transit friendly.

And if they want to appeal to the western Broward crowd, they should have an express train from Palmetto + Hialeah to Culmer.

[CrimsonCane]

In case people have a hard time contextualizing the driving distance in those maps, the ride from Brickell is about 10-15 minutes, Government Center is 6-8 minutes, Culmer is 5 minutes.

If you got off at Culmer, it is about a 20 minute walk. And, for those who frequented the old Orange Bowl, you might have parked around that area back in the day (I remember parking by that Winn Dixie). For the sake of reference, the walk from the nearest subway station to Fenway Park is about 10 min.

After looking at it more, Fenway can be an example of how that area can be ideally developed. There are immediate similarities between the 12th Avenue bridge (Miami) and the bridge over I-90 (Boston). In Boston, once you cross the I-90 bridge, you start to hit all of the bars and restaurants in and around Fenway. And, that's how it also ought to be with the new Marlins stadium. There are obvious socioeconomic differences between the Kenmore Square area and Culmer/Little Havana, but it serves as a good template nonetheless.

Getting to the game isn't really the issue. I would probably not have a major issue walking from Culmer right around 5:30 - 6 PM. It's leaving the game where they definitely need shuttles back to a more fan-friendly location (like Brickell) if they want fans from South Dade to use transit. At 10 PM, the walk from the OB to Culmer is a very different walk/neighborhood.

[Big Z]

In case people have a hard time contextualizing the driving distance in those maps, the ride from Brickell is about 10-15 minutes, Government Center is 6-8 minutes, Culmer is 5 minutes.

If you got off at Culmer, it is about a 20 minute walk. And, for those who frequented the old Orange Bowl, you might have parked around that area back in the day (I remember parking by that Winn Dixie). For the sake of reference, the walk from the nearest subway station to Fenway Park is about 10 min.

After looking at it more, Fenway can be an example of how that area can be ideally developed. There are immediate similarities between the 12th Avenue bridge (Miami) and the bridge over I-90 (Boston). In Boston, once you cross the I-90 bridge, you start to hit all of the bars and restaurants in and around Fenway. And, that's how it also ought to be with the new Marlins stadium. There are obvious socioeconomic differences between the Kenmore Square area and Culmer/Little Havana, but it serves as a good template nonetheless.

Getting to the game isn't really the issue. I would probably not have a major issue walking from Culmer right around 5:30 - 6 PM. It's leaving the game where they definitely need shuttles back to a more fan-friendly location (like Brickell) if they want fans from South Dade to use transit. At 10 PM, the walk from the OB to Culmer is a very different walk/neighborhood.

Last time my girlfriend and I went to Fenway, we got off at the "Fenway" stop. It was a pretty long walk. What is the closest station to Fenway?

What happens with the transportation at the new marlins stadium if there is an extra inning game lasting til 1am? I'm guessing you are forced to leave due to the transportation.. I don't know how this works.

[Beef]

Kenmore

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You leave the game early. In other cities they make an announcement about the last train and people leave.

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I love CC because he can use the word "contextualizing" and it flows.

If I used it would sound like, '"Charlie Murphayyyy, welcome to the CHINA CLUB!"

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CD on FSN FLA:

County and team looking at utilizing surface lots around the stadium, across the river and by Government Center. A shuttle will be available at all these lots. He envisions water taxi in a few years.

5% of fans will use mass transit.

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Miami Marlins ballpark transit and parking not fully mapped

By Rachel Tannenbaum

Metrorail and Metrobus are being relied upon to carry a large percentage of fans to and from games at the new Marlins baseball stadium, but with opening day April 4, much of the parking and transportation for the 81 home games still remain uncertain.

Although parking built for the ballpark will be limited, says Claude Delorme, the team's executive vice president of ballpark development, between lawn and driveway parking, biking, walking and public transportation, ample modes are available.

"People's experience at venues starts and ends with parking," he told a Greater Miami Chamber of Commerce discussion of the transportation and infrastructure of the ballpark last week. "If it takes 45 minutes to go the last half mile, people might turn away."

Mr. Delorme said plans are to make it as smooth as possible.

The 4,713 parking spots in four garages with eight entry lanes and 826 spaces in six lots for the 37,000-seat stadium, he said, will cater to season ticketholders, players and staff. At full house, he said, the stadium would need 11,000 parking spaces.

Miami Marlins season ticketholders, Mr. Delorme said, will receive parking permits only for home games. Other events at the stadium will distribute parking passes separately, he said. The team controls all stadium events.

Although parking garage space is limited, Mr. Delorme said off-site parking, including lawns and driveways, will provide about 4,000 spaces.

Construction of the four garages, he said, should be substantially completed by December.

To aid traffic flow, Mr. Delorme said, some streets surrounding the stadium will close on game days. He said Northwest 16th and Fourth streets will close three hours prior to the start of games. After games, he said, traffic should get back on Northwest 12th and 14th streets and Flagler.
Twelve taxis are to be lined up on game days, and Northwest Sixth and 12th streets will be reserved for limousines, Mr. Delorme said. He said the goal is to take pressure off main thoroughfares.

"We are continuing to work with police and Miami Parking Authority," Mr. Delorme said. "It is important to have a plan that everyone participates in and goes along with."

Marlins and transportation officials will meet from November to March to try and figure out how to staff the games with police, Mr. Delorme said.

The City of Miami, Miami-Dade County and South Florida Regional Transportation Authority are creating a joint effort to provide safe, reliable transportation to and from the stadium, said Ysela Llort, interim director of the Miami-Dade Transit.

"Mass transit is the best way to get around," she said.

Public transit, especially Metrorail, was a main mode of transportation discussed at the meeting, with the Civic Center and Culmer stations expected to be the most heavily used.

The walk to the ballpark from the Civic Center Metrorail Station is a shade less than a mile and from Culmer Metrorail Station to the ballpark a full mile.

Metrorail service is to run pre-game 5:30-7 p.m., with trains every 15 minutes, and post-game from 9:30 p.m.-12 a.m., with trains every 30 minutes.

Miami-Dade Transit has requested a grant through the South Florida Regional Transportation Authority to the Federal Transit Administration for a shuttle from Culmer Metrorail Station to the ballpark, Ms. Llort said, which would take users directly to the ballpark. It has yet to receive the OK.
"The grant, called JARC (Job Access & Reverse Commute), could pay 50% of the cost and it would have to be matched locally or with state money," she said.

This shuttle would run from 5:30 p.m. until an hour after a game. Pre-game, Ms. Llort said, about eight buses are to run every four minutes, and post-game about 10 buses will run an average of every three minutes. Each trip takes 15 minutes.

Another still-unfunded shuttle service is planned from the Government Center Metrorail Station to the ballpark, Ms. Llort said.

Besides shuttles and the Metrorail, she said, five Metrobus routes are within walking distance of the stadium.

Route 7 runs weekdays 4:48 a.m. to 11 p.m. and weekends 5:54 a.m. to 10:20 p.m. Route 11 runs 24 hours, weekdays and weekends. Route 12 runs weekdays 4:40 a.m. to 12:36 a.m. the next day and weekends 5:36 a.m. to 12:20 a.m. the next day. Route 17 runs weekdays 4:44 a.m. to 12:53 a.m. the next day and weekends 4:58 a.m. to 12:29 a.m. the next day. Route 51 Flagler MAX runs weekdays only, 5:01 a.m. to 9:20 p.m.

Ms. Llort said Miami-Dade Transit is looking into enhancing those five routes on game days.

The City of Miami, she said, plans trolley service on game days from the Health District, though its trolley operations don't yet exist and a contract with an operator has yet to be signed.

The city will also offer bicycle-friendly infrastructure and provide bikeways to the ballpark, she said.

Mr. Delorme predicted that 1% of attendees — staff and locals included — will bike to the stadium and that 1,800 people will walk in from residential areas.

Tri-Rail is considering extending service on game days, Mr. Llort said. Tri-Rail would supplement Miami-Dade Transit's service by adding an extra northbound train connecting with the last northbound Metrorail train, she said.

Ms. Llort said those taking public transportation to the ballpark should buy EASY Cards in advance to help beat the crowd on game day.

"We want to avoid a Black Friday scenario," she said. "We want it to be easy, convenient and welcoming."

While the Marlins have been talking for years about water taxis along the Miami River to the stadium, Mr. Delorme said it might not happen in 2012 or 2013. He said docks would need to be built, but that the river is less than four-tenths of a mile from the stadium. He said he's committed to make the water taxi a reality.

"Everyone wants people to use public transit," Mr. Delorme said, "and we want everyone to get to the venue in a safe manor."

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[Beef]

safe manor