Beinfest Doesn't Care About the Bullpen; Reds Win 10-8 in 11

[nny]

I'd rather have Smoltz in the BP than pedro

Would be awesome to have him closing out games

[Jay]

Why does everyone seem to forget that Vanden Hurk was called up with barely any starts above A ball? This organization halted his development by rushing him to the bigs.

[Jewbility]

we've had such discussions in the past.

[Ramp]

I'd rather have Smoltz in the BP than pedro

Would be awesome to have him closing out games

forgot about Smoltzie..... would love him too

[Todd]

Vanden Hurk has added some ground ball inducing stuff to his repertoire, a sinker I believe. Also been working on a slider for quite a while. A pitcher like him, with his ability to throw velocity, should of probably started working a splitter when still in rookie ball, and a cutter as well. He has the tools to be a damn good starter(or reliever), just needs to put it all together. I remember a game against St. Louis I believe a few years ago where he got 7 or 8 K by throwing his fastball at varying speeds. I believe he dropped his curveball, entirely, which is a shame though.

[nny]

He didn't drop it entirely last year but he only threw it a handful of times

[kylekash]

I think because he was having trouble locating the pitch. He went more with the slider, because he had an easier time of spotting it.

[Todd]

One of lifes cruel ironies, Vanden Hurk had a fairly impressive curveball, mechanics wise, but couldnt put it where he wanted to.