JJ Contract Extension Watch

[Flum]

I say we all show up to opening day wearing PTBNL jerseys.

[Fish and Chips]

i dont have the direct quote, but buster olney said rival executives werent told that JJ was available.(espn insider)
http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog...3dolney_buster

so i think the perrotto's might have a false source.

Keep in mind perrotto siad "the marlins are very willing to trade Josh Johnson for the right package" and that basically an Marlins FO policy, that no one is untradeable, and anyone can be trade if a team is willing to give up value for that player.

i do believe there will be more JJ trade rumors in the future, but right now, the marlins arent fielding any offers.

[wanks1212]

The Marlins do not plan to trade right-hander Josh Johnson this offseason, according to two sources with knowledge of the club's intentions.

Johnson's agent, Matt Sosnick, is even more adamant that a deal will not occur.

"I'd be less surprised if Elijah showed up at my parents' house this Passover than if they trade him before the start of the season," Sosnick said.

In Jewish tradition, a cup of wine is poured on Passover for Elijah the Prophet, whose arrival would herald the coming of the Messiah.

Johnson, 25, is eligible for free agency after the 2011 season. The Marlins could trade him at any point before then, or keep him at arbitration-inflated salaries in each of the next two years. If Johnson leaves as a free agent, the team will receive only draft picks as compensation.

If Johnson doesn't sign a long-term contract, he could be part of an exceptional group of free agent starters after the 2011 season. At present, that class includes Seattle's Felix Hernandez, Detroit's Justin Verlander and Edwin Jackson, Houston's Wandy Rodriguez and Pittsburgh's Zach Duke.

Sosnick told ESPN.com earlier this month that negotiations with the Marlins over a long-term deal broke down over the team's reluctance to offer Johnson more than three years.

Other sources said the Marlins are willing to offer Johnson four years, but unwilling to increase his salary above shortstop Hanley Ramirez's in their respective free-agent years.

Ramirez will earn $15 million, $15.5 million and $16 million in what would have been his free-agent years — 2012, '13 and '14. Johnson could surpass those numbers if he becomes a free agent before his age 28 season.

Sosnick said the Marlins never mentioned Ramirez's contract in their recent negotiations, and that their financial offer was never within 20 percent of Ramirez's free-agent numbers.

That would put their highest offer for a free-agent year at $12.8 million — 80 percent of $16 million.

Johnson was 15-5 with a 3.23 ERA last season, and made his first All-Star team. For his career, he is 34-16 with a 3.40 ERA.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/1...s-ace-unlikely

[Beef]

Ehe, Elijah.

[Ramp]

Passover jokes are best

[m26555]

*breathes gigantic sigh of relief*

[Fishfan79]

Ehe, Elijah.

thought he meant elijah dukes

[Swifty]

4 years $44 million total.

Both sides win. Get the damn thing done.

[LocoMarlinFan]

I would prefer to sign Johnson to a long-term deal but if both sides can't mutually agree then we need to trade him this off-season.

[FishFanInPA]

Thanks for laying that out.

[lou]

Other sources said the Marlins are willing to offer Johnson four years, but unwilling to increase his salary above shortstop Hanley Ramirez's in their respective free-agent years.

Ramirez will earn $15 million, $15.5 million and $16 million in what would have been his free-agent years — 2012, '13 and '14. Johnson could surpass those numbers if he becomes a free agent before his age 28 season.

Sosnick said the Marlins never mentioned Ramirez's contract in their recent negotiations, and that their financial offer was never within 20 percent of Ramirez's free-agent numbers.

That would put their highest offer for a free-agent year at $12.8 million — 80 percent of $16 million.

Wait, am I reading this correctly.

-We are willing to offer 4 years
-Free agency years are not 80% of what Hanley is making, let's round ball that to $12 million.

2010 - $4
2011 - $8
2012 - $12
2013 - $12
Total - $36 (Greinke makes $38, Lester 35, Wainwright 32)

So if we're willing to go this far, can't you just give buddy $5 in 2010, $10 in 2011, and $13 in 2013 and call it a day at 4/$40. Are you really being that cheap over $4ish million dollars over the span of 4 seasons?

Jesus christ idiots. This makes me even madder if it's such a nominal difference. The difference is having Ross Gload versus a club controlled guy on the bench for 4 years. FUCK

[Fish and Chips]

insider please?
http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog...3dolney_buster

[CrimsonCane]

It basically throws out the hypothetical that the Marlins may keep Johnson for this season and trade him if we fall out of the race like the Indians did with Cliff Lee. No sources cited, it's pure speculation.

[Ramp]

Here's why the Marlins intend to keep Josh Johnson through the winter and into the start of the 2010 season, rather than trading him. He'll probably make something in the range of $4 million next season, and Florida could just open the year with him leading their rotation, and -- the Marlins hope -- he could help them contend for the playoffs. If the Marlins were to fall out of the race, Florida could look to trade him, just as the Indians traded Cliff Lee in the middle of the 2009 season -- with another year and a half until he becomes eligible for free agency.

The Marlins and Johnson's agent had made some progress toward a three-year contract with some kind of vesting option on a fourth year. But the bottom line is that Johnson's side is looking for deal of at least four years, and the Marlins are reluctant to guarantee that fourth year.

Insider

[Party]

How bout we stop hoping and put a team together that is a legitimate contender and not a "Need All the Pieces to Click in Order to Contend" team.

K?