6/13 - 6/19 Minor League Game Thread

[geemoney]

6/17

AAA New Orleans: W, 5-3

Sierra: 1-5, R, 3B, K
E.Alvarez: 1-4, R, 2B, RBI
Marrero: 3-4, R, 2B, RBI
G.Guerrero: 1-4, R, HR (7), 3 RBI, K
Heineman: 1-4, 2B, K
Meyer: W, 6 IP, 7 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 0 K, 1 HRA
R.Alvarez: SV, 1 IP, 1 H, 2 K

AA Jacksonville: Idle

A+ Jupiter: Game Postponed

A Clinton: Idle

A- Batavia: L, 3-1

M.Smith: 2-4, BB
Edwards: 1-4, R, HR (1), RBI, 2 K
Turner: 1-3, BB, K
Sa.Castro: 1-3, BB, K
Frias: 4.2 IP, 4 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 5 K
Sherrod: L, 1 IP, 2 H, 2 ER, 2 BB, 2 K

DSL Marlins: W, 10-9

Rodriguez: 3-5, 2 R, 2B, 2 RBI, BB, 2 K
Machado: 2-4, 2 RBI, CS
De Leon: 1-4, 2 R, BB, K
Cumana: 1-4, R, 2 RBI, BB, 2 K
Vegas: 1-2, 2 R, K
Melenciano: 1-3, R, RBI, BB, 2 K
Puentes: 2.2 IP, 2 H, 5 ER, 4 BB, 1 K
Jimenez: W, 1.1 IP, 2 H, 3 ER, 3 BB, 2 K
Mendez: SV, 4 IP, 4 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 5 K

[Nick]

So far so good for Burdick and Edwards at Batavia.

[fish16]

does anyone know why the NCAA doesnt just change the baseball season start time so that this doesnt happen where guys were already drafted by MLB organizations who are invested in their future and the NCAA still has some of its season left? these managers are looking out for their own best interest rather than the interest of their players, mostly pitchers, and it makes 0 sense as to why guys with a big future are still playing NCAA ball where they could risk getting hurt and never signing that contract

[Nick]

does anyone know why the NCAA doesnt just change the baseball season start time so that this doesnt happen where guys were already drafted by MLB organizations who are invested in their future and the NCAA still has some of its season left? these managers are looking out for their own best interest rather than the interest of their players, mostly pitchers, and it makes 0 sense as to why guys with a big future are still playing NCAA ball where they could risk getting hurt and never signing that contract

I think the MLB needs to change the draft timing, and when I was watching the MLB Draft this year Manfred even threw out the idea of combining the College World Series and MLB Draft into one event. Basically the CWS would finish and then the next day or so the Draft would be held also in Omaha. I think that's a great idea, and then you'd actually get a lot more of the college players being able to show up live at the draft. I don't really think the NCAA can change the season, it already starts in early February so a lot of these northern teams I've seen them get like 15 of the first 20 games cancelled.

[tjfla]

does anyone know why the NCAA doesnt just change the baseball season start time so that this doesnt happen where guys were already drafted by MLB organizations who are invested in their future and the NCAA still has some of its season left? these managers are looking out for their own best interest rather than the interest of their players, mostly pitchers, and it makes 0 sense as to why guys with a big future are still playing NCAA ball where they could risk getting hurt and never signing that contract

Because the Northern teams are already getting snowed out. The solution was to have those teams come South for 2 or 3 weeks but since they are getting better alot of teams in South don't wanna play them that early

MLB wanted to move the draft back some but teams wanna play games/get guys in system earlier NOT in mid July

If guys wanted they could do just like CFB guys do and leave school when drafted-NO ONE is telling Bleday he has to play in CWS

[fish16]

Because the Northern teams are already getting snowed out. The solution was to have those teams come South for 2 or 3 weeks but since they are getting better alot of teams in South don't wanna play them that early

MLB wanted to move the draft back some but teams wanna play games/get guys in system earlier NOT in mid July

it just seems like an unbelievable easy problem to fix rather than this stupidity of the current process of drafting guys and having them continue to play for free and risk injury for a meaningless college baseball season where their managers are continuously putting their health in jeopardy in order to win a few more games. It happens every single year with pitchers in these late season ncaa baseball games. Either move the season up, move the draft back, or let these kids sign right away and continue to play until their season is over. It's going to happen eventually where one of these top arms gets drafted in the first round, his manager acts selfishly and pushes them way to far, and they end up not signing due to injury. And it's an incredibly easy fix.

[Nick]

it just seems like an unbelievable easy problem to fix rather than this stupidity of the current process of drafting guys and having them continue to play for free and risk injury for a meaningless college baseball season where their managers are continuously putting their health in jeopardy in order to win a few more games. It happens every single year with pitchers in these late season ncaa baseball games. Either move the season up, move the draft back, or let these kids sign right away and continue to play until their season is over. It's going to happen eventually where one of these top arms gets drafted in the first round, his manager acts selfishly and pushes them way to far, and they end up not signing due to injury. And it's an incredibly easy fix.

The College World Series definitely isn't meaningless to the kids playing in it, I'll tell you that much. It's what makes College Baseball great and the CWS one of the most underrated sporting events in the world, the passion the kids play with. There's no doubt in my mind JJ Bleday benefits more from playing in the CWS than he would playing in Jupiter this week. Yes there is a risk to pitchers, but that risk has been there in little league, that risk has been there in AAU ball, that risk has been there in high school. You're talking about probably 10-12 years of that risk being there compared to a 2-3 week period that only a very small fraction of the players drafted are participating in.

[lou]

The College World Series definitely isn't meaningless to the kids playing in it, I'll tell you that much. It's what makes College Baseball great and the CWS one of the most underrated sporting events in the world, the passion the kids play with. There's no doubt in my mind JJ Bleday benefits more from playing in the CWS than he would playing in Jupiter this week. Yes there is a risk to pitchers, but that risk has been there in little league, that risk has been there in AAU ball, that risk has been there in high school. You're talking about probably 10-12 years of that risk being there compared to a 2-3 week period that only a very small fraction of the players drafted are participating in.

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I think the problem is if coaches throw guys like Rodon 130 pitches (I think he was doing that routinely) during the course of the season. It's like come on man?

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[fish16]

The College World Series definitely isn't meaningless to the kids playing in it, I'll tell you that much. It's what makes College Baseball great and the CWS one of the most underrated sporting events in the world, the passion the kids play with. There's no doubt in my mind JJ Bleday benefits more from playing in the CWS than he would playing in Jupiter this week. Yes there is a risk to pitchers, but that risk has been there in little league, that risk has been there in AAU ball, that risk has been there in high school. You're talking about probably 10-12 years of that risk being there compared to a 2-3 week period that only a very small fraction of the players drafted are participating in.

some of these cases of pitchers pitching an absurd amount of pitches on short rest only occurs in times like the CWS where they are playing for their season. Fine if you want to let them play after the draft, but let them sign if they want to so they arent risking their careers for coaches who arent looking out for their best interest. Moving the draft back a few weeks seems like the most obvious move.

[tjfla]

it just seems like an unbelievable easy problem to fix rather than this stupidity of the current process of drafting guys and having them continue to play for free and risk injury for a meaningless college baseball season where their managers are continuously putting their health in jeopardy in order to win a few more games. It happens every single year with pitchers in these late season ncaa baseball games. Either move the season up, move the draft back, or let these kids sign right away and continue to play until their season is over. It's going to happen eventually where one of these top arms gets drafted in the first round, his manager acts selfishly and pushes them way to far, and they end up not signing due to injury. And it's an incredibly easy fix.

MLB teams could care less about this. U know what happens if a Top 3 Pick gets hurt? Team offers $1 million instead of 6 Million and they spend that cash on HS/hard signs. So they get a Top 3 guy with TJS and 4 or 5 others!! No Top 3 pick that needs TJS is gonna say ill pass and go back to school. This is why EVERY team takes a crazy sign or 2 late in the draft. Arizona found something wrong with Drey Jameson and saved like 700K so now they can offer some Rd 3 HS talent they took in Rd 34 825K

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some of these cases of pitchers pitching an absurd amount of pitches on short rest only occurs in times like the CWS where they are playing for their season. Fine if you want to let them play after the draft, but let them sign if they want to so they arent risking their careers for coaches who arent looking out for their best interest. Moving the draft back a few weeks seems like the most obvious move.

SO what happens to the other 300-500 teams that arent in CWS and all the HS kids? Some guys havent played in a month already-MLB teams like it how it is now because they get guys into camp right away and see what they got. GCL already starts last week on June

Manfred wants to make the MLB Draft like NBA/NFL Draft however MLB teams like the way it is now

[fish16]

MLB teams could care less about this. U know what happens if a Top 3 Pick gets hurt? Team offers $1 million instead of 6 Million and they spend that cash on HS/hard signs. So they get a Top 3 guy with TJS and 4 or 5 others!! No Top 3 pick that needs TJS is gonna say ill pass and go back to school

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SO what happens to the other 300-500 teams that arent in CWS and all the HS kids? Some guys havent played in a month already-MLB teams like it how it is now because they get guys into camp right away and see what they got. GCL already starts last week on June

Manfred wants to make the MLB Draft like NBA/NFL Draft however MLB teams like the way it is now

If your argument is just take the $5 million loss due to needing TJ because they were pushed by a selfish coach only looking out for the schools best interest, your argument is pretty shitty.

[tjfla]

If your argument is just take the $5 million loss due to needing TJ because they were pushed by a selfish coach only looking out for the schools best interest, your argument is pretty shitty.

My argument is MLB teams could care less if a guy gets hurt because it costs them less to sign. Would they prefer a guy healthy YES YES YES but TJS is so common now most don't get to crazy over it.

Sign a guy for 1 Million and give him TJS at 22 then sign 4 or 5 OTHERS OR Sign a guy for 6 Million and 24/25 he needs TJS. Again teams would rather not have injured guy but they arent crying about it

Marlins LY took Sam Bordner in Rd15 because he needed TJS. Bordner was Rd3 talent
Marlins took Josh Roberson who had TJS in Rd 11 but was Top 75 prospect

Neither went back to school

[Nick]

I'm sure the NCAA could work something out where MLB could say we want to bring more eyes to the CWS, make the MLB Draft something that promotes both NCAA Baseball as well as the MLB. Possibly get more High School studs to attend college instead of signing straight out of High School. MLB could have a larger presence in the CWS, continue to have that MLB game that opens the CWS, but maybe in return you adjust the timing of the CWS to a week or 2 earlier, it used to take place in early mid-June, should be doable, you may lose a series or two during the season, it wouldn't be the end of the world.

[fish16]

My argument is MLB teams could care less if a guy gets hurt because it costs them less to sign. Would they prefer a guy healthy YES YES YES but TJS is so common now most don't get to crazy over it.

Sign a guy for 1 Million and give him TJS at 22 then sign 4 or 5 OTHERS OR Sign a guy for 6 Million and 24/25 he needs TJS. Again teams would rather not have injured guy but they arent crying about it

Marlins LY took Sam Bordner in Rd15 because he needed TJS. Bordner was Rd3 talent
Marlins took Josh Roberson who had TJS in Rd 11 but was Top 75 prospect

Neither went back to school

again, i dont care about whether the team cares. of course a team would love to get the same guy for $5 million less if all it takes is them getting TJ surgery. It's the players who are continuously screwed over in this situation.

[Nick]

Harrison must be hurt, 3rd straight game out of the lineup.