2020 Draft

[fauowls44]

This is when u could see us do the go crazy method. I havent heard if they think Martin can play SS/3B but FG has him as a CF. If Miami thinks he is a CF they should go for Crochet,Patrick Bailey and save 3 million. Yes Austin Martin is a Top 3 talent but the last thing we need is another OF only guy. I know u dont draft based on position need but u also don't draft 25 OF only guys-we already have a full OF in AA,Hi A,Low A and Rookie ball NOT counting the guys who will likely be moved there from MIF spots

IF DJ and Denbo think Austin Martin can play SS or even 3B the pick is fine especially since they have worked with Boras before


FG also updated their rankings and its crazy to see the HS talent they have lowered because no tape,signing issues and other stuff. I know their rankings arent a guide but if u have money to spend in Rds 4 and 5 u could get steal 1st Rd talent very easy

Given the Vandy connection, I would be shocked if Martin was there at 3 and the Marlins didn't take him.

[Nick]

This is when u could see us do the go crazy method. I havent heard if they think Martin can play SS/3B but FG has him as a CF. If Miami thinks he is a CF they should go for Crochet,Patrick Bailey and save 3 million. Yes Austin Martin is a Top 3 talent but the last thing we need is another OF only guy. I know u dont draft based on position need but u also don't draft 25 OF only guys-we already have a full OF in AA,Hi A,Low A and Rookie ball NOT counting the guys who will likely be moved there from MIF spots

IF DJ and Denbo think Austin Martin can play SS or even 3B the pick is fine especially since they have worked with Boras before


FG also updated their rankings and its crazy to see the HS talent they have lowered because no tape,signing issues and other stuff. I know their rankings arent a guide but if u have money to spend in Rds 4 and 5 u could get steal 1st Rd talent very easy

From what I've seen from Martin defensively, it's been almost entirely at 3B. IMO, he's a good defensive player, but does not have the range for SS as a professional. I think he could handle either 2B or 3B, though. Them having him listed as a CF is interesting. I haven't seen him play any OF, so I don't really have an opinion of him as a CF, but if we see him as able to handle CF long-term, that's a huge positive in his favor.

[Lee Stone]

I think the Orioles may well look at Lacy at the two spot. If he's goes there, the Marlins will definitely choose Martin in my eyes. 5-tool middle infielder would be too good to pass. I think everyone here would have chosen Martin over Bleday in last year's draft had he been available.

Martin intrigues me as a second baseman particularly. Unlike most, apparently, I have big concerns about I Diaz. I didn't like any part of his game last season. He would have to improve greatly just to achieve mediocrity ... and mediocre is not what Marlins should be looking for.

Still, with needs all over the diamond, I'd say 80% chance that Orioles take Martin and Marlins wind up with Lacy. All good.

[tjfla]

I think the Orioles may well look at Lacy at the two spot. If he's goes there, the Marlins will definitely choose Martin in my eyes. 5-tool player that can play 2B (hasn't shown the ability to control throws from left side of the infield) would be too good to pass. I think everyone here would have chosen Martin over Bleday in last year's draft had he been available.

Martin intrigues me as a second baseman particularly. Unlike most, apparently, I have big concerns about I Diaz. I didn't like any part of his game last season. He would have to improve greatly just to achieve mediocrity ... and mediocre is not what Marlins should be looking for.

Ya if they think Martin is a IF he is gonna be the pick. I think they would try him at 3B before 2B especially with Devers getting looks at 2B,would be very interesting to see what they did at 2B,SS,3B. Austin Martin,Osiris,Devers,Dalvy,Salas,Cappe,Nasim.Marin ez,Cristhian Martinez,Santos. Some nice IF talent

I said if they think he is a CF then they might be better off passing.

[Nick]

Ya if they think Martin is a IF he is gonna be the pick. I think they would try him at 3B before 2B especially with Devers getting looks at 2B,would be very interesting to see what they did at 2B,SS,3B. Austin Martin,Osiris,Devers,Dalvy,Salas,Cappe,Nasim.Marin ez,Cristhian Martinez,Santos. Some nice IF talent

I said if they think he is a CF then they might be better off passing.

I don't think there is anyone that thinks he's a CF only. That would make no sense. We think he can only play a position that he didn't play at all in college.

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I don't think there is anyone that thinks he's a CF only. That would make no sense. We think he can only play a position that he didn't play at all in college.

I stand corrected. He was playing CF this year. I guess I didn't catch any games where he did, though. He hadn't played there until 2020. He actually didn't play SS at all in college.

[tjfla]

I don't think there is anyone that thinks he's a CF only. That would make no sense. We think he can only play a position that he didn't play at all in college.

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I stand corrected. He was playing CF this year. I guess I didn't catch any games where he did, though. He hadn't played there until 2020. He actually didn't play SS at all in college.

Ya thats why keep saying do we see him as a SS/3B or CF. If its as a IF then jump all over him. If its a CF i would be iffy

He played 3B most time in 2019 and then 12 in CF and 4 at 3B this year.

I dont think we would play him at SS but might as well try before putting him at 3B

[fauowls44]

BA has a new mock draft out this morning. Can someone post who they have the Marlins taking?

[Lee Stone]

Did you see this by Eric Longenhagen of Fangraphs? https://blogs.fangraphs.com/2020-mock-draft-mach-one/

[sports24/7]

I haven't seen anyone say Martin is OF only. CF is a premium spot, so his move there is probably to maximize his value rather than limit it. At the very least he should be able to play 2B, and I don't see why he also couldn't play 3B. There are some that think he could even play SS. Also, with the DH inevitably coming, I think you worry a little less about position, and the log jam the Marlins have in the OF. And while they do have a lot of OF prospects, do they have a CF of the future currently? The jury is still out on that. If the Marlins pass on him, I think they'll be making a pretty big mistake.

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BA has a new mock draft out this morning. Can someone post who they have the Marlins taking?

They have us taking Lacy after Tork and Martin go 1-2.

Asa Lacy
Texas A&MLHP
Notes:
Plenty of sources believe scouting director DJ Svihlik would love for Martin to fall to Miami at No. 3. Svihlik, of course, has ties to Vanderbilt and took Martin’s teammate JJ Bleday just a year ago with the fourth overall pick. While Svihlik was with the program when Martin was being recruited, we still don’t believe the best pure hitter in the class will fall to this spot. In this situation, the Marlins will happily settle for the top-ranked pitcher in the class in Lacy.

[fauowls44]

I haven't seen anyone say Martin is OF only. CF is a premium spot, so his move there is probably to maximize his value rather than limit it. At the very least he should be able to play 2B, and I don't see why he also couldn't play 3B. There are some that think he could even play SS. Also, with the DH inevitably coming, I think you worry a little less about position, and the log jam the Marlins have in the OF. And while they do have a lot of OF prospects, do they have a CF of the future currently? The jury is still out on that. If the Marlins pass on him, I think they'll be making a pretty big mistake.

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They have us taking Lacy after Tork and Martin go 1-2.

Thanks for posting!

[tjfla]

I haven't seen anyone say Martin is OF only. CF is a premium spot, so his move there is probably to maximize his value rather than limit it. At the very least he should be able to play 2B, and I don't see why he also couldn't play 3B. There are some that think he could even play SS. Also, with the DH inevitably coming, I think you worry a little less about position, and the log jam the Marlins have in the OF. And while they do have a lot of OF prospects, do they have a CF of the future currently? The jury is still out on that. If the Marlins pass on him, I think they'll be making a pretty big mistake.

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They have us taking Lacy after Tork and Martin go 1-2.

Agreed. If they are playing him at 2B/SS/3B AND CF he is a no brainer. I would try him at SS and see but 3B is his likely spot. They seem to be happy with Devers at 2B(they would be at same level) and Jazz is pretty much at SS for next few years. I wouldnt mess around in this draft-take whomever is on the board either Austin Martin or Asa Lacy and move on. I think its more or less this is such a unique draft they are playing all the options right now.

They could go for Austin Martin or Asa Lacy and a bunch of FV 35+ guys which they have tons of right now in the system OR they could get a Garret Crochet,Patrick Bailey and 4 of the 6 picks be guys who in March we ranked in the Top 50 in ALL of the draft. This system needs high end talent and this is the draft to get it if u can afford guys



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The 1 positive about this all is DJ and Denbo are running the draft/UDFA signings so we are in good hands. No more Stan Meek and Jeff looking at 4 states

[Lee Stone]

DJ and Denbo are running the draft/UDFA signings so we are in good hands.

I think it's fair to ask, "How so?" What draft/UFDA results do they have for the Marlins thus far?

[Nick]

DJ and Denbo are running the draft/UDFA signings so we are in good hands.

I think it's fair to ask, "How so?" What draft/UFDA results do they have for the Marlins thus far?

I think it's a little premature to say we're in good hands, but I will say that on paper, I think last year's draft looks very good. Also, there is no denying that at the very least we have more resources allocated to the draft process and IFA process under Jeter/Denbo then we did under Loria and Co.

[fauowls44]

Jim Callis
@jimcallisMLB
My second attempt at projecting the
@MLBDraft
first round. Went with almost my same top 12 as two weeks ago, but was very close to mixing it up and going with this first four:

1. Det: Torkelson
2. Bal: Gonzales
3. Mia: Martin
4. KC: Lacy

[sports24/7]

Jim Callis
@jimcallisMLB
My second attempt at projecting the
@MLBDraft
first round. Went with almost my same top 12 as two weeks ago, but was very close to mixing it up and going with this first four:

1. Det: Torkelson
2. Bal: Gonzales
3. Mia: Martin
4. KC: Lacy

I'm not going to get my hopes up, and I'd be very happy with Lacy anyway, but it's a little exciting to start to see more buzz around Martin falling to us.

I haven't seen it mentioned much, but I also think it'll be cool for Martin and Bleday to come up through the system together. You don't often get scenarios like that where two big time prospects from the same program come up in the same system. It's not that big of a deal, but it's still pretty cool to me. If they get Kumar Rocker next year as well, even better.

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Here is Kieth Law's latest from the Athletic:

1. Detroit Tigers: Spencer Torkelson, 1B, Arizona State

This seems more solidly Torkelson than it did two weeks ago, although I still can’t rule out Austin Martin or Asa Lacy here, especially if the Tigers want to shop their bonus around and see if they can save to go over-slot in Round 2.

2. Baltimore Orioles: Austin Martin, 3B/OF, Vanderbilt

I still think it’s whichever of Torkelson or Martin doesn’t go No. 1, but there are some rumblings they would take Heston Kjerstad on a discount. I have heard a few times they won’t go with a pitcher here.

3. Miami Marlins: Asa Lacy, LHP, Texas A&M

If Lacy had had a full spring, he might have ended up at No. 1 overall; he was that dominant when he did pitch, including an outing in which he made Nick Gonzales “look like a little kid” in the words of one scout.