5/30 - 6/5 Minor League Game Thread

[Lee Stone]

He’s 24 years old in low a ball. The hell are you guys talking about? He’s also got just a mid .800s ops, not sure where you guys are getting this idea he’s lighting the world on fire. Justin twine regressed to his crappy mean so now we need a new mediocre prospect to overhype off of a small sample size?

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He’s 23 for another month actually, but the point remains

What point remains? Caleb Smith started pitching well at age 25. Cooper started hitting at around age 27? Sims is hitting the crap out of the ball ... that's the point.

[fish16]

What point remains? Caleb Smith started pitching well at age 25. Cooper started hitting at around age 27? Sims is hitting the crap out of the ball ... that's the point.

The point is that you never learn. Just like Justin Twine had turned a corner to you last year as opposed to him just having a hot streak in his otherwise horrendous career.

[Nick]

The point is that you never learn. Just like Justin Twine had turned a corner to you last year as opposed to him just having a hot streak in his otherwise horrendous career.

I just don't think this is the same situation. Twine had over 1500 professional ABs before he started doing well in AA for 100 ABs. Sims had about 300.

[Lee Stone]

The point is that you never learn. Just like Justin Twine had turned a corner to you last year as opposed to him just having a hot streak in his otherwise horrendous career.

I believe that team management has Justin Twine batting third at AA Jacksonville, so apparently I wasn't altogether alone in seeing some growth there.

[fish16]

I believe that team management has Justin Twine batting third at AA Jacksonville, so apparently I wasn't altogether alone in seeing some growth there.

our AA jacksonville team also has one of the worst minor league lineups ive ever seen. partly because they have justin twine batting 3rd at AA Jacksonville. You know, the same justin twine who has a 50/9 K/BB ratio in nearly 200 ab's this year and an OPS barely above .600. both of which are right in line with his awful career numbers.

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I just don't think this is the same situation. Twine had over 1500 professional ABs before he started doing well in AA for 100 ABs. Sims had about 300.

That's fair and i wasnt comparing the two, just saying that Lee is predictable in that he consistently makes the same mistake in evaluating minor league talent and never looks back to see why he is making that mistake, he just moves on to the next 25 year old career minor leaguer who is inevitably performing well against significantly younger talent. He's done it countless times in 2 years.

I hope Sims turns into something, im just not going to hope too hard until he starts performing like this at a respectable level as opposed to just dominating 19 and 20 year olds in low A ball

[Nick]

I believe that team management has Justin Twine batting third at AA Jacksonville, so apparently I wasn't altogether alone in seeing some growth there.

Have you seen Jax's offense, though? I think I could hit at least 6th in that lineup. lol

[fish16]

Have you seen Jax's offense, though? I think I could hit at least 6th in that lineup. lol

it's one of the most horrendous lineups ive ever seen in the minors. Saying justin twine is batting 3rd in our AA lineup is more reflective of just how few hitting prospects we have, not anything to do with how they view justin twine.

[geemoney]

6/3

AAA New Orleans: Idle

AA Jacksonville: L, 8-7 (10 Innings)

Bird: 3-5, R, 2B, RBI, BB, CS
Twine: 1-6, 2 RBI, 2 K
Miller: 2-4, R, 2B, RBI
S.Garrett: 1-4, 2 RBI, BB, K
Millan: 3-5, 2 R, 2B, RBI, K
Poteet: 6.2 IP, 6 H, 4 ER, 0 BB, 5 K
J.Kinley: 1 IP, 3 H, 3 ER, 1 BB, 2 K
Graves: L, 1 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 1 K

A+ Jupiter: L, 5-4

Mesa: 1-4, RBI, BB
Alonso: 2-5, 2B, RBI, 2 K
Nelson: 1-4, R, HR (4), RBI, BB, 2 K
Santos: 3-5, R, 2B, 2 K
A.Reyes: 1-4, R, 2B
Schubert: 1-2, 2B, RBI, K
Rogers: L, 5.2 IP, 6 H, 5 R, 3 ER, 1 BB, 8 K, 1 HRA
Aiello: 1.1 IP, 2 H, 1 BB, 2 K

A Clinton: Idle

DSL Marlins: L, 9-5

Rodriguez: 2-4, R, RBI, BB, K
Paulino: 1-4, 2 R, 2B, BB, 2 K
Cumana: 1-3, 2B, BB, K, SB
Osorio: 1-3, 2B, 2 RBI, K, SB
Chinchilla: 1-2, RBI
Alegre: 4 IP, 3 H, 2 ER, 0 BB, 6 K
Valera: L, .2 IP, 2 H, 5 ER, 2 BB

[Lee Stone]

Time to take note of what Gallen, Hernandez and Noesi are doing at New Orleans. Over the last ten years, no Marlin AAA starter has performed as well as 32-year-old Noesi has thus far ... not even close. And the much younger Gallen and Hernandez have been even better. At a time when hitters are dominating the PCL, that's even more significant.

The question arises: How do the Marlins make the best use of the three? Who belongs in the rotation that already ranks tenth in baseball based on ERA? Who belongs in the bullpen?

[tjfla]

Marlins with some moves

Signed 2B Billy Fleming(Denbo guy from NYY-26 yr old minor league depth) and OF Angel Reyes(Was in Marlins system till 2017 got released now back in Jupiter for some reason?)
Traded for C Tyler Heineman(C from Arizona just depth)

[Nick]

Time to take note of what Gallen, Hernandez and Noesi are doing at New Orleans. Over the last ten years, no Marlin AAA starter has performed as well as 32-year-old Noesi has thus far ... not even close. And the much younger Gallen and Hernandez have been even better. At a time when hitters are dominating the PCL, that's even more significant.

The question arises: How do the Marlins make the best use of the three? Who belongs in the rotation that already ranks tenth in baseball based on ERA? Who belongs in the bullpen?

If I were Noesi. I'd be begging to move to the pen. That's the only way he gets called up. For Gallen and Hernandez many of us are in favor of going to a 6-man rotation once Urena is dealt. We'll see if the org is able to think out of the box like that.

[tjfla]

If I were Noesi. I'd be begging to move to the pen. That's the only way he gets called up. For Gallen and Hernandez many of us are in favor of going to a 6-man rotation once Urena is dealt. We'll see if the org is able to think out of the box like that.

They brought Noesi in to be the 6th SP/LR guy but Elieser already is on 40 man which is why he keeps getting the call. Until Urena gets traded or a young arm gets shutdown due to innings Noesi and Gallen are prolly stuck in AAA

[fauowls44]

Time to take note of what Gallen, Hernandez and Noesi are doing at New Orleans. Over the last ten years, no Marlin AAA starter has performed as well as 32-year-old Noesi has thus far ... not even close. And the much younger Gallen and Hernandez have been even better. At a time when hitters are dominating the PCL, that's even more significant.

The question arises: How do the Marlins make the best use of the three? Who belongs in the rotation that already ranks tenth in baseball based on ERA? Who belongs in the bullpen?

Hopefully there is no circumstance where Noesi ever starts a game for the Marlins. If he does, that means they had a rash of injuries. Gallen, Hernandez, Dugger, and Poteet should be the next in line.

[Lee Stone]

They brought Noesi in to be the 6th SP/LR guy but Elieser already is on 40 man which is why he keeps getting the call. Until Urena gets traded or a young arm gets shutdown due to innings Noesi and Gallen are prolly stuck in AAA

Why no Alcantara to pen? He has reliever stuff ... a fastball with movement and sort of a slider ... but that's it.

[fauowls44]

Why no Alcantara to pen? He has reliever stuff ... a fastball with movement and sort of a slider ... but that's it.

Why would you move a 23 year old Alcantara to the pen? He's been perfectly fine starting this year...not consistently great, but certainly good enough to stay in the rotation and develop.