What the Trade Does for the System

[tjfla]

Nicolino becuase of polish,ETA,and he is a LEFTY. Our FO loves the lefties

Jupiter

Lowell
Nicolino
DeScalfani
Urena
Brice
Hodges
Conley

GBoro

Heaney
Del Orbe
Reyes
Hope
Esch
Steckenrider

[MiamiHomer]

Video: Jonathan Mayo on the prospects the Marlins got

[Bucklin12]

I doubt Heaney starts in Gboro, and yeah I forgot about DeScalfani. They could stagger start a couple of those young guys to make room. There's no way Brice/Urena/Nicolino start out in Gboro.

[tjfla]

I doubt Heaney starts in Gboro, and yeah I forgot about DeScalfani. They could stagger start a couple of those young guys to make room. There's no way Brice/Urena/Nicolino start out in Gboro.

Neither do I but that is really the only place he can go until someone gets moved up or hurt

He prolly starts in GBoro-Does like Fernandez this year and is moved up. The one thing about pitchers is as long as they get innings,its all good.

Jax

Fernandez
James
Flynn
O"Gara(If Healthy)
Montgomery

Even tho I could see Conley converted to RP this year

[Erick]

Neither do I but that is really the only place he can go until someone gets moved up or hurt

He prolly starts in GBoro-Does like Fernandez this year and is moved up. The one thing about pitchers is as long as they get innings,its all good.

Jax

Fernandez
James
Flynn
O"Gara(If Healthy)
Montgomery

Even tho I could see Conley converted to RP this year

Nicolino is starting in AA; Beinfest already said so.
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Nevermind, I read it wrong.

[lou]

Even tho I could see Conley converted to RP this year

I think this is going to be James last hurrah with that too. His stuff profiles as a reliever if he doesn't start putting it together.

[emkayseven]

MIAMI - When it comes to the haul of young players the Marlins are stockpiling, there's no shortage of promise. All of a sudden, after dumping in the neighborhood of $200 million and alienating much of their fan base by trading one veteran after another, they have prospects out the door.

Whether any pan out is the great unknown.

"You may not know them," Marlins president David Samson said in defending the team's mega-trade with Toronto on 790 The Ticket. "But baseball people do."

Marlins management blew up its $95 million roster after a 93-loss season and the team's second last-place finish in a row.

Fans are irate.

Remaining players, such as slugger Giancarlo Stanton, are openly angry.

Even Miami Mayor Tomas Regalado jumped into the fray, writing a letter to Bud Selig in which he implored the Major League Baseball commissioner to reject the trade on behalf of "the residents, taxpayers and fans who are frustrated by the actions of the owner (Jeffrey Loria)."

On Monday, however, the trade was approved. The Marlins are sending Jose Reyes, Josh Johnson, Mark Buehrle, Emilio Bonifacio and John Buck - and, more significantly, $160 million in future contract obligations - to the Blue Jays.

In return, the Marlins received a whole lot of question marks.

Although shortstop Yunel Escobar and backup catcher Jeff Mathis have established track records in the majors, the other five players the Marlins are receiving from Toronto are either light on big-league experience or have none at all. The Marlins plan to shift to Escobar to third base - that is if they don't trade him and start Adeiny Hechavarria, who also was obtained in the trade, at shortstop.

Independent talent evaluators seem to think the Marlins did OK.

"My position is I like this deal for both sides," said ESPN baseball analyst Jim Bowden, a former general manager for the Reds and Nationals.

A scout who has studied the Toronto farm system for several years said he thinks the Marlins made out well on the trade, but how well depends on the development of the prospects.

"I've seen them all and have a history with all of them, from the instructional league up through the minors," said the scout, who asked that his name not be used. The scout provided a detailed analysis of four of the five players the Marlins received:

Outfielder Jake Marisnick, 21, (.249 with eight home runs and 24 stolen bases last season at Single A and Double A): "I think that he is a high-risk, high-reward type guy," the scout said. "If he figures it out with his bat, if he makes contact, you've got yourself a front-line outfielder. "

Left-handed pitcher Justin Nicolino, 20, (10-4 with a 2.46 ERA last season at Single A): "I think there's a really good chance he'll pitch in the big leagues as a back-of-the-rotation guy. He's a fourth starter for me in the future. "

Adeiny Hechavarria, 23, (.254 with two home runs in 41 games with the Blue Jays): " He's going to be an everyday shortstop and he's got a good chance to be a star in the big leagues. "

Right-handed pitcher Henderson Alvarez, 22, (9-14 with a 4.85 ERA in 31 starts for the Blue Jays): "I love him. If he develops a third pitch, I think he's a top-of-the-rotation guy. "

The Marlins also are receiving right-handed pitcher Anthony DeSclafani, 22 .

http://www.thenewstribune.com/2012/1...#storylink=cpy

[Ramp]

that scout sounds like he works for the onion

so many Ifs

[tjfla]

I think this is going to be James last hurrah with that too. His stuff profiles as a reliever if he doesn't start putting it together.

Ya I think they give him a chance to start then if he bombs they will do the same thing they did with Olmos and move a Jupiter Guy up

We already got 3 Lefties in the Jax Pen(Olmos,Dayton,Lazo)

[Namaste]

Reading those evaluations of the players we received from Toronto makes me want to vomit.

We lost Reyes, Buehrle and JJ for a fistful of question marks. Dear God.

[Mainge]

Reading those evaluations of the players we received from Toronto makes me want to vomit.

We lost Reyes, Buehrle and JJ for a fistful of question marks. Dear God.

Yeah I don't really like any of these guys a whole lot.

[emkayseven]

my favorite return might be Hech just because I like dazzling SS glovework

the others blow chunks

[Mainge]

And Marisnick obviously has a high ceiling so that's cool, but no D'AROUND sucks.

[Todd]

Didnt need D'Arnaud. The Marlins have Brantly.

[Erick]

Imagine if one of those could play 2B though...