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    With minor league season being over, need to start looking at things for marlin maniacs blog. Order isn't of exactly important to me, I focus more on the grades since players within grades are normally interchangeable.

    Going by Sickel's system, which is more or less: A=stud/, B+ = above average regular with upside, B = regular with upside, B- = regular without upside/below average regular with upside, C+ = good bench bat/high risk high reward, C = Anything else interesting

    B
    1-Dominguez
    2-James
    3-Hand

    B-
    4-Olmos
    5-Marinez
    6-Ceda
    7-Skipworth

    C+
    8-Ozuna
    9-Osvaldo
    10-Poveda (Is his service time going to remove his prospect status? Spent the year on the 60 day dl = 1 year of service time)
    11-Koehler
    12-Alvarez
    13-Morey
    14-Smolinski
    15-Cousins
    16-Jennings
    17-Leroux
    18-Tucker

    C but could hit C+-
    19-Petersen
    20-Montgomery; If Elih got GB's like Monto does, god I'd love Elih :\

    I know I made the thread before making fun of our top 10 going into the year, but we definitely have nice depth throughout the system. Given the choice of last year's top-heavy, horrible-depth or this years no-top, good-depth, I'd certainly go top-heavy, but can't complain too much.

    I don't like rating players from this years draft (Morey got a ton of time in though) or haven't played above short season, but the following could certainly be ranked C+: Realmuto, Rasmussen, Berglund, and then Yelich who's a B if he can fix his throwing motion and stay in the OF.

    C+ I could see dropping to C: Leroux, Tucker, Poveda (I believe in him though, I love getting him for Cantu), Smolinski (I still believe, went back to his awesome BB/K after his horrible start), and then Alvarez and Morey since just A ball and they were old for league if they had good K/BB and GB. And with his K-rates, I might drop Skip to C+

    And then losing their rookie status
    Stanton A, Morrison B+, I'd have had Sanabia as a C+ but with how he's performed in the majors that'd be a B-, Sanchez B-, Tim Wood C

  • #2
    You guys seriously have no opinions on our prospects?

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    • #3
      Hand is legit
      I want to see Koehler and Villanueva have a shot at the big club

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      • #4
        Just seeing this for the first time...

        I think this is mostly quite good. Going by Sickels standards, my list would work as follows. Rankings inside tiers are sort of off-the-cuff. This also includes no 2010 draftees.

        B+
        1- James (maybe a bit high, but the K's and the lack of XBH points to very good stuff. Believe he'll be huge in Jupiter next year)

        B
        2 - Dominguez
        3 - Hand
        4 - Marinez

        B-
        5 - Olmos (he's close to a B for me -- very promising year, but I'll wait for one more before he gets upgraded)
        6 - Ceda
        7 - Ozuna (the power is too big a tool to be any less -- also reported to be a hard worker, which is a combination that has led to big time success for us in the past)
        8 - Koehler (I'm sold. Bonafide innings eater. Back of the rotation consistency)

        C+
        9 - Skipworth
        10 - Poveda
        11 - Cousins
        12 - Berglund
        13 - Smolinski
        14 - Villanueva
        15 - Osvaldo
        16 - Alvarez
        17 - Reed
        18 - Jennings
        19 - Ramos
        20 - Cishek
        21 - Kaminska
        22 - Hodges

        Borderline guys:
        J. Morales
        Shafer
        Montgomery
        Perio
        Keys
        Jensen
        Austin
        Benjamin
        Caminero
        Cooper
        And a sizable group of other guys I don't feel like mentioning.

        Considering our recent draftees, I think I'd slot the following guys:

        Yelich (Tier B) - Top 20
        Rasmussen (B-) - Top 20
        Morey (C+) - Top 20
        Varner (C+) - Maybe Top 20
        Neal (C+) - Maybe Top 20
        Canha (C+)
        Realmuto (C+)
        Oaks (C)
        Ojala (C)
        Senne (C)
        Fisher (C)
        Black (C)
        Brice (C)
        Wright (C)
        Christian Yelich
        LF, Greensboro Grasshoppers
        12/5/1991 - 19 years old


        .299/.375/.461/.836
        100-334, 24 2B, 0 3B, 10 HR, 38 BB, 74 SO, 26 SB (4 CS)

        ------------------------------------

        Last 10 Games:
        .394/.512/.697/1.155

        Last Update: 7/27/2011

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        • #5
          OMG, YOU DON't CARE ABOUT PORSPECTSZ?
          Christian Yelich
          LF, Greensboro Grasshoppers
          12/5/1991 - 19 years old


          .299/.375/.461/.836
          100-334, 24 2B, 0 3B, 10 HR, 38 BB, 74 SO, 26 SB (4 CS)

          ------------------------------------

          Last 10 Games:
          .394/.512/.697/1.155

          Last Update: 7/27/2011

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          • #6
            Organization is a little light on the bats with the recent promotions. Hopefully Yelich, Canha, and Realmuto prove some next year at Greensboro with Ozuna.
            "You owe it to yourself to find your own unorthodox way of succeeding, or sometimes, just surviving."
            - Michael Johnson


            J.T. Realmuto .282/.351/.412

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Bucklin12 View Post
              OMG, YOU DON't CARE ABOUT PORSPECTSZ?
              SERIOUSLY

              I also actually didn't realize Skipworth's OPS fell so much to end the season

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              • #8
                He's really not cool.
                poop

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                • #9
                  His defense greatly improved with him being healthy, and was .265/.333/.450/.783 against RHP

                  If he can do something like .240/.300/.420 against RHP while throwing out ~30% of runners, that's still starting material in a platoon.

                  He's too big of a Q with his K-rates to me though. I remember that one article from BA during Stanton's Jupiter campaign, about how players who strike out over 25% of the time in A ball rarely ever make it to the majors. And he's at 30%.

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                  • #10
                    The power did come through, though. Yes, it's Gboro, but he had one of the highest HR/AB in the SALLY this year. It's definitely a legit plus tool.

                    I still see a scenario where he is a solid regular. But I wouldn't put money on it. Good defense and power from a #2 catcher is perfectly acceptable, however.
                    Christian Yelich
                    LF, Greensboro Grasshoppers
                    12/5/1991 - 19 years old


                    .299/.375/.461/.836
                    100-334, 24 2B, 0 3B, 10 HR, 38 BB, 74 SO, 26 SB (4 CS)

                    ------------------------------------

                    Last 10 Games:
                    .394/.512/.697/1.155

                    Last Update: 7/27/2011

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                    • #11
                      Also. Saw your question in Sickels' AQA thread, NNY.

                      I was just looking at Olmos the other day for another project…there is a lot to like with him, he’s a big breakout candidate for next year. Montgomery has great command of so-so stuff from what I heard….as you point out all but Olmos are old for the level.

                      Edgar Olmos, folks. Watch him next year.
                      Glad to see Olmos drawing some attention. Next year's Jupiter staff could be unruly with James, Olmos, Montgomery, Rasmussen, Morey, Alvarez (although we say that every year).
                      Christian Yelich
                      LF, Greensboro Grasshoppers
                      12/5/1991 - 19 years old


                      .299/.375/.461/.836
                      100-334, 24 2B, 0 3B, 10 HR, 38 BB, 74 SO, 26 SB (4 CS)

                      ------------------------------------

                      Last 10 Games:
                      .394/.512/.697/1.155

                      Last Update: 7/27/2011

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