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  • Damn Gallen got lit up again? I might think about starting him off at AA even though he's kind of proven himself at that level just to get his confidence back up again. The walks are the most concerning part. I hope its just a mental/lack of experience thing than an injury thing.

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    what ever happened to ortega, btw? Did he ever show up after those visa issues? Id assume he's just playing minor league games if he did, right?

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    • Cameron Maybin appears to be heating up with the bat after a slow start after signing. Maybe im just being hopeful but I hope its a good indicator that we would be fine with sending Brinson down for a month and a half to work on his plate discipline a little.

      Also, Bour's numbers suck but i just looked back at his spring numbers each of the past 3 years and they've been pretty abysmal each year so at least its nothing new for him.

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      • Riddle was supposed to play today but got scratched last minute because he was a little sore after ramping up the last few days in minor league games. So if he's not ready to play opening day it looks like it will be not long after that before he's back with the big league club.

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        • Originally posted by fish16 View Post
          Riddle was supposed to play today but got scratched last minute because he was a little sore after ramping up the last few days in minor league games. So if he's not ready to play opening day it looks like it will be not long after that before he's back with the big league club.
          They are likely to do what they did with Wittgren. Send him to AAA for 1 or 2 weeks.

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          Originally posted by lou View Post
          Those AAA/AA rotations seem about right. We joke about him, but Meyer should probably be in AA too. But there is no harm moving him up when someone is promoted. They are going to have to make RP eventually.

          The lower minors is also interesting - Guzman, Rogers, Garret, E. Cabrera, Torress, Devers
          The AAA and AA Rotations are packed shit even A ball rotations will be packed(Gonna be some solid arms in Ex ST)

          AAA-Alcantara/Gallen/Peters/Richards/Conley/Mazza
          AA-Garcia/Neidert/Lopez/Yamamoto/Merandy/Meyer/Poteet/Brigham. Gotta think they make 2 or 3 of them RP finally

          As for bats.

          AAA-Lee/Sierra
          AA-Harrison/Diaz/Brian Miller(Maybe?)
          A+-Nelson/Dunand/Mahan/Isael Soto
          A-Torres,Hernandez,Cespedes

          Most interesting thing is does Denbo send guys 25+ up to AA to see what they can do or? Alot of guys looked good in Greensboro LY however way to old for the level

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          • Originally posted by tjfla View Post
            They are likely to do what they did with Wittgren. Send him to AAA for 1 or 2 weeks.

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            The AAA and AA Rotations are packed shit even A ball rotations will be packed(Gonna be some solid arms in Ex ST)

            AAA-Alcantara/Gallen/Peters/Richards/Conley/Mazza
            AA-Garcia/Neidert/Lopez/Yamamoto/Merandy/Meyer/Poteet/Brigham. Gotta think they make 2 or 3 of them RP finally

            As for bats.

            AAA-Lee/Sierra
            AA-Harrison/Diaz/Brian Miller(Maybe?)
            A+-Nelson/Dunand/Mahan/Isael Soto
            A-Torres,Hernandez,Cespedes

            Most interesting thing is does Denbo send guys 25+ up to AA to see what they can do or? Alot of guys looked good in Greensboro LY however way to old for the level
            I really dont get your obsession with making some of our SP prospects RP's. IF we have no room in a minor league rotation thats one thing, but it makes 0 sense to convert SP prospects into relievers unless you absolutely have to or unless they fully prove that they cant be a SP on a full time basis.

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            • Originally posted by fish16 View Post
              I really dont get your obsession with making some of our SP prospects RP's. IF we have no room in a minor league rotation thats one thing, but it makes 0 sense to convert SP prospects into relievers unless you absolutely have to or unless they fully prove that they cant be a SP on a full time basis.
              We have atleast 8 SP(plus 3-4 guys who are 25+ in Jupiter who should be in AA) for 5 spots in AA instead of moving guys down a level to let them get innings/keep as a SP why the hell don't u just make them what they are? Brigham,Meyer,Buckelew would be solid RP and are all 25+ they shouldn't be in Jupiter just to be a SP

              I don't have an obsession. Just confused as to why we don't stick to what we want them to be. All other teams have no problems figuring out what their guys are-in fact some teams draft guys who are 24 say u are a RP and are in AAA by 25. We draft a 24 yr old and by age 27 they are finally in High A ball with half of games pitched as SP and other half RP

              Its like Tyler Kolek. He already has arm issues-looks good for 1 inning but crap after. Why not just make him an Archie Bradley RP? If guys have 2 pitches OR get hurt alot make them a RP to help them. Some guys can't throw 100+ innings. Instead of releasing them or even keep trying to have them be a SP try making them a RP and have them throw 40-50 innings a year
              Last edited by tjfla; 03-22-2018, 12:17 PM.

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              • Originally posted by tjfla View Post
                We have atleast 8 SP(plus 3-4 guys who are 25+ in Jupiter who should be in AA) for 5 spots in AA instead of moving guys down a level to let them get innings/keep as a SP why the hell don't u just make them what they are? Brigham,Meyer,Buckelew would be solid RP and are all 25+ they shouldn't be in Jupiter just to be a SP

                I don't have an obsession. Just confused as to why we don't stick to what we want them to be. All other teams have no problems figuring out what their guys are-in fact some teams draft guys who are 24 say u are a RP and are in AAA by 25. We draft a 24 yr old and by age 27 they are finally in High A ball with half of games pitched as SP and other half RP

                Its like Tyler Kolek. He already has arm issues-looks good for 1 inning but crap after. Why not just make him an Archie Bradley RP? If guys have 2 pitches OR get hurt alot make them a RP to help them. Some guys can't throw 100+ innings. Instead of releasing them or even keep trying to have them be a SP try making them a RP and have them throw 40-50 innings a year
                I understand doing it when you have an overflow in a rotation at a particular level, like i said, but you give guys every opportunity to become SP's until they prove fully that they cant become one. You can always move a guy to the bullpen later on in their career if they prove they arent starters. Starters are infinitely more valuable than relievers, so you give every guy a chance to become a starter until they prove that they cant survive as a starter.

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                • "Brad Hand"

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                  • Man Brinson and Anderson are having unreal springs.

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                    • So is Conley

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                      • Trevor Richards gets another start tomorrow. Great sign that he could sneak into the rotation, where he belonged all along.

                        Garrett Cooper. Does he make the roster? I'm guessing AAA to lay in wait of a Bour injury. He's slow and a poor OF option. Also, team is going to have to carry max number of pitchers, so just four reserves.

                        Riddle me this: Why is Riddle discussed as if he should be part of the ML roster? He hits no better than Hechevarria and fields a lot worse. I'd rather have Peter Mooney.

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                        • Originally posted by Lee Stone View Post
                          Trevor Richards gets another start tomorrow. Great sign that he could sneak into the rotation, where he belonged all along.

                          Garrett Cooper. Does he make the roster? I'm guessing AAA to lay in wait of a Bour injury. He's slow and a poor OF option. Also, team is going to have to carry max number of pitchers, so just four reserves.

                          Riddle me this: Why is Riddle discussed as if he should be part of the ML roster? He hits no better than Hechevarria and fields a lot worse. I'd rather have Peter Mooney.
                          Alcantara/Peters/Jarlin then maybe Richards in that order.

                          Cooper makes the roster and is backup 1B/Corner OF

                          Riddle will start year in AAA and either Mooney or Adames is UT guy. U sure do love AAAA guys-there is a reason Mooney/Mo Sierra/Galloway stay in AAA

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                          • Originally posted by tjfla View Post
                            Alcantara/Peters/Jarlin then maybe Richards in that order.

                            Cooper makes the roster and is backup 1B/Corner OF

                            Riddle will start year in AAA and either Mooney or Adames is UT guy. U sure do love AAAA guys-there is a reason Mooney/Mo Sierra/Galloway stay in AAA
                            And there is a reason to sign players such as Mike Morse, Tyler Moore, Salty, Prado, Ed Lucas, and Ichiro? Right now, with a need to send Brinson down until May, I would definitely be giving Galloway CF and the lead off spot this last week of spring. Got to have some speed out there. He could eventually serve as a very good 4th OF. Moises Sierra batted .300 with a .370 OBP over the last three years in the minors. I certainly think he's better than Scott Van Slyke. Long time minor leaguers (like Justin Bour!) deserve a chance.

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                            • Originally posted by Lee Stone View Post
                              And there is a reason to sign players such as Mike Morse, Tyler Moore, Salty, Prado, Ed Lucas, and Ichiro? Right now, with a need to send Brinson down until May, I would definitely be giving Galloway CF and the lead off spot this last week of spring. Got to have some speed out there. He could eventually serve as a very good 4th OF. Moises Sierra batted .300 with a .370 OBP over the last three years in the minors. I certainly think he's better than Scott Van Slyke. Long time minor leaguers (like Justin Bour!) deserve a chance.
                              you have no idea what youre talking about when you evaluate minor league players. Im not gonna act like an expert, but you are simply clueless.

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                              • Originally posted by fish16 View Post
                                you have no idea what youre talking about when you evaluate minor league players. Im not gonna act like an expert, but you are simply clueless.
                                In listing Alcantara, Peters and Garcia as superior SP candidates to Richards, you should at least pay some attention to their performance history. Garcia has never been successful as a starter. That's why he was moved to the pen - no effective arsenal as a SP. Alcantara has experienced no success as a starter; he has BP written all over him. I rate Peters ahead of Richards also, but he has to rediscover his command. The key for Richards is a very effective change up.

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