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  • What Should The Marlins Do In The Off-Season?

    So this season was quite a flop in comparison to what the hopes were and now they finish off a season where they've traded Anibal, Infante and Hanley. The Hanley move leaves a gaping hole at 3B as well as a power bat (although he wasn't doing a great job of providing that) to go along with a need in CF as well.

    So I pose this question to at least have some sort of discussion or even prediction as to what you think will be the plan going into next season. What do you think the Marlins will do to fill the needs on the team? What free agents or players would you like to see signed/traded in the winter? Understanding that there is a lot of time left till this all becomes relevant, I figured there isn't much else to talk about on this team other than watching some of the new guys that have been acquired and that's about it.
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    Here's a list of the 2013 free agents list if anyone is curious:

      Spoiler:
    Updated 7-29-12

    Catchers
    Rod Barajas (37) - $3.5MM club option, no buyout
    Henry Blanco (41) - $1.24MM mutual option
    Chris Iannetta (30) - $5MM club option with a $250K buyout; player can void
    Gerald Laird (33)
    Russell Martin (30)
    Jeff Mathis (30)
    Brian McCann (29) - $12MM club option with a $500K buyout
    Jose Molina (37) - $1.5MM club option with a $300K buyout
    Mike Napoli (31)
    Dioner Navarro (29)
    Wil Nieves (35)
    Miguel Olivo (34) - $3MM club option with a $750K buyout
    Ronny Paulino (32)
    A.J. Pierzynski (36)
    Humberto Quintero (33)
    David Ross (36)
    Carlos Ruiz (34) - $5MM club option with a $500K buyout
    Brian Schneider (36)
    Kelly Shoppach (33)
    Chris Snyder (32) - mutual option
    Yorvit Torrealba (34)
    Matt Treanor (37)

    First basemen
    Lance Berkman (36)
    Russell Branyan (37)
    Jason Giambi (42)
    Brad Hawpe (34)
    Eric Hinske (35)
    Aubrey Huff (36) - $10MM club option with a $2MM buyout
    Casey Kotchman (30)
    Adam LaRoche (33) - $10MM mutual option with a $1MM buyout
    Carlos Lee (37)
    James Loney (29)
    Xavier Nady (34)
    Mike Napoli (31)
    Lyle Overbay (36)
    Carlos Pena (35)
    Ty Wigginton (35) - $4MM club option with a $500K buyout

    Second basemen
    Jeff Baker (32)
    Robinson Cano (30) - $15MM club option with a $2MM buyout
    Mike Fontenot (33)
    Orlando Hudson (35) - $8MM club option with a $2MM buyout
    Maicer Izturis (32)
    Kelly Johnson (31)
    Adam Kennedy (37)
    Jeff Keppinger (33)
    Jose Lopez (29)
    Aaron Miles (36)
    Freddy Sanchez (35)
    Ryan Theriot (33)

    Shortstops
    Jason Bartlett (33) - $5.5MM club option with a $1.5MM buyout; vests with 432 PAs in 2012
    Yuniesky Betancourt (31)
    Geoff Blum (39)
    Ronny Cedeno (30)
    Stephen Drew (30) - $10MM mutual option with a $1.35MM buyout
    Alex Gonzalez (35) - vesting option
    Cesar Izturis (33)
    Jhonny Peralta (31) - $6MM club option with a $500K buyout
    Marco Scutaro (37)
    Miguel Tejada (39)
    Ryan Theriot (33)
    Omar Vizquel (46)
    Jack Wilson (35)

    Third basemen
    Geoff Blum (39)
    Miguel Cairo (39)
    Eric Chavez (35)
    Mark DeRosa (38)
    Brandon Inge (36)
    Maicer Izturis (32)
    Jose Lopez (29)
    Placido Polanco (37) - $5.5MM mutual option with a $1MM buyout
    Mark Reynolds (29) - $11MM club option with a $500K buyout
    Scott Rolen (38)
    Mark Teahen (31)
    Miguel Tejada (39)
    Ty Wigginton (35) - $4MM club option with a $500K buyout
    David Wright (30) - $16MM club option with a $1MM buyout
    Kevin Youkilis (34) - $13MM club option with a $1MM buyout

    Left fielders
    Jay Gibbons (36)
    Jonny Gomes (32)
    Scott Hairston (33)
    Josh Hamilton (32)
    Willie Harris (35)
    Brad Hawpe (34)
    Eric Hinske (35)
    Conor Jackson (31)
    Reed Johnson (36)
    Andruw Jones (36)
    Austin Kearns (33)
    Mark Kotsay (37)
    Carlos Lee (37)
    Fred Lewis (32)
    Ryan Ludwick (34) - mutual option for 2013
    Juan Pierre (35)
    Juan Rivera (34) - $4MM club option for 2013 with a $500K buyout
    Delmon Young (27)

    Center fielders
    Alfredo Amezaga (35)
    Rick Ankiel (33)
    Michael Bourn (30)
    Melky Cabrera (28)
    Mike Cameron (40)
    Curtis Granderson (32) - $13MM club option with a $2MM buyout
    Scott Hairston (33)
    Angel Pagan (31)
    Corey Patterson (33)
    Cody Ross (32)
    Grady Sizemore (30)
    Ryan Spilborghs (33)
    B.J. Upton (28)
    Shane Victorino (32)

    Right fielders
    Lance Berkman (36)
    Matt Diaz (35)
    Kosuke Fukudome (36) - $3.5MM club option with a $500K buyout
    Willie Harris (35)
    Torii Hunter (37)
    Andruw Jones (36)
    Mark Kotsay (37)
    Ryan Ludwick (34) - mutual option for 2013
    Xavier Nady (34)
    Juan Rivera (34) - $4MM club option for 2013 with a $500K buyout
    Cody Ross (32)
    Ryan Spilborghs (33)
    Ichiro Suzuki (39)
    Nick Swisher (32)

    Designated hitters
    Bobby Abreu (39)
    Johnny Damon (39)
    Vladimir Guerrero (38)
    Travis Hafner (36) - $13MM club option with a $2.75MM buyout
    Raul Ibanez (41)
    Hideki Matsui (39)
    David Ortiz (38)
    Luke Scott (35) - $6MM club option with a $1MM buyout
    Jim Thome (42)

    Starting pitchers
    Scott Baker (31) - $9.25MM club option
    Erik Bedard (34)
    Joe Blanton (32)
    Fausto Carmona (29) - $9MM club option
    Bartolo Colon (40)
    Aaron Cook (34)
    Kevin Correia (32)
    Doug Davis (37)
    Jorge De La Rosa (32) - $11MM player option with a $1MM buyout
    Ryan Dempster (36)
    R.A. Dickey (38) - $5MM club option with a $300K buyout
    Zach Duke (30)
    Scott Feldman (29) - $9.25MM club option with a $600K buyout
    Jeff Francis (32)
    Gavin Floyd (30) - $9.5MM club option
    Freddy Garcia (37)
    Zack Greinke (28)
    Jeremy Guthrie (34)
    Rich Harden (31)
    Dan Haren (32) - $15.5MM club option with a $3.5MM buyout
    Livan Hernandez (38)
    Tim Hudson (37) - $9MM club option with a $1MM buyout
    Edwin Jackson (29)
    Hiroki Kuroda (38)
    Colby Lewis (33)
    Francisco Liriano (29)
    Kyle Lohse (34)
    Rodrigo Lopez (37)
    Derek Lowe (40)
    Paul Maholm (31) - $6.5MM club option with a $500K buyout
    Shaun Marcum (31)
    Jason Marquis (34)
    Daisuke Matsuzaka (32)
    Brandon McCarthy (29)
    Kevin Millwood (38)
    Jamie Moyer (50)
    Brett Myers (32) - $10MM vesting option with a $3MM buyout
    Ramon Ortiz (40)
    Roy Oswalt (35)
    Carl Pavano (37)
    Jake Peavy (31) - $22MM club option with a $4MM buyout
    Brad Penny (35)
    Joel Pineiro (34)
    Anibal Sanchez (29)
    Jonathan Sanchez (30)
    Ervin Santana (30) - $13MM club option with a $1MM buyout
    Joe Saunders (32)
    James Shields (31) - $9MM club option with a $1.5MM buyout
    Chien-Ming Wang (33)
    Kip Wells (36)
    Jake Westbrook (35) - $8.5MM mutual option with a $1MM buyout if club declines
    Randy Wolf (36) - $10MM club option with a $1.5MM buyout
    Chris Young (34)
    Carlos Zambrano (32)

    Closers
    Jonathan Broxton (29)
    Matt Capps (29) - $6MM club option with a $250K buyout
    Francisco Cordero (38)
    Kyle Farnsworth (37)
    Brandon League (30)
    Ryan Madson (32) - $11MM mutual option with a $2.5MM buyout
    Juan Carlos Oviedo (29)
    J.J. Putz (36) - $6.5MM club option with a $1.5MM buyout
    Mariano Rivera (43)
    Francisco Rodriguez (31)
    Joakim Soria (29) - $8MM club option with a $750K buyout
    Jose Valverde (35)

    Right-handed relievers
    David Aardsma (31) - $500K club option
    Jeremy Accardo (31)
    Mike Adams (34)
    Luis Ayala (35)
    Grant Balfour (35) - $4.5MM club option with a $350K buyout
    Miguel Batista (42)
    Dave Bush (33)
    Shawn Camp (37)
    Todd Coffey (32) - club option
    Jose Contreras (41) - $2.5MM club option with a $500K buyout
    Juan Cruz (34)
    Octavio Dotel (39)
    Chad Durbin (35)
    Nelson Figueroa (39)
    Jason Frasor (35)
    Kevin Gregg (35) - $6MM club/vesting option
    LaTroy Hawkins (38)
    Aaron Heilman (34)
    Clay Hensley (33)
    Ryota Igarashi (34)
    Bobby Jenks (32)
    Brad Lidge (36)
    Matt Lindstrom (33) - $4MM club option with a $200K buyout
    Mark Lowe (30)
    Brandon Lyon (33)
    Mike MacDougal (36) - club option
    Dustin McGowan (28)
    Guillermo Mota (39)
    Peter Moylan (34)
    Micah Owings (30)
    Vicente Padilla (35)
    Joel Peralta (37)
    Chad Qualls (34)
    Ramon Ramirez (31)
    Jon Rauch (34)
    Chris Ray (31)
    Fernando Rodney (36)
    Takashi Saito (43)
    Rafael Soriano (33) - $14MM player option or a $1.5MM buyout
    Yoshinori Tateyama (37)
    Robinson Tejeda (31)
    Carlos Villanueva (29)
    Dan Wheeler (35)
    Kerry Wood (36) - $3MM option
    Jamey Wright (38)
    Michael Wuertz (34)

    Left-handed relievers
    Jeremy Affeldt (34)
    Sean Burnett (30) - $3.5MM mutual option with a $250K buyout
    Tim Byrdak (39)
    Randy Choate (37)
    Pedro Feliciano (35) - $4.5MM club option
    Brian Fuentes (37) - $6.5MM club option with a $500K buyout
    Mike Gonzalez (35)
    J.P. Howell (28)
    Hong-Chih Kuo (31)
    Will Ohman (35)
    Darren Oliver (42) - $3MM club option with a $500K buyout
    J.C. Romero (37)
    Hisanori Takahashi (38)
    Dontrelle Willis (31)
    Last edited by MiamiHomer; 07-30-2012, 05:12 PM. Reason: Doublepost Merged

  • #2
    Amezaga is all I needed to see.
    Originally posted by Madman81
    Most of the people in the world being dumb is not a requirement for you to be among their ranks.
    Need help? Questions? Concerns? Want to chat? PM me!

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    • #3
      I'd give Rich Harden a real cheap contract with incentives.

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      • #4
        He hasn't even played this year...
        LHP Chad James-Jupiter Hammerheads-

        5-15 3.80 ERA (27 starts) 149.1IP 173H 63ER 51BB 124K

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        • #5
          I think Dan Haren could be available this off season. He'd be a good signing, IMO.

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          • #6
            I like Mike Napoli.

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            • #7
              A bit early, but assuming they keep everyone

              -BJ Upton/Melky Cabrera/Michael Bourn for CF starter 4-5 year contract
              -Jhonny Peralta for 3B starter 2 year deal
              -Yorvit Torrelba, 2 year deal to platoon catcher with Buck in 2013 / ease in Brantly 2014
              -Andruw Jones/Jonny Gomes/Scott Hairston, 1 year deal to platoon with Ruggiano/Gaby(lomo shift to LF) in LF

              Rest of position players all internal with Buck, Morrison, Bonifacio, Reyes, Stanton, Ruggiano, Gaby, Dobbs, and Solano.

              Don't need pitchers. JJ, Buerhle, Nolasco, Turner, and Eovaldi, with a AAA Hand, LeBlanc and Sanabia capable of being stretched out in bullpen. Bullpen, Bell, Cishek, Mujica, Webb, Dunn, Sanabia, and LeBlanc. I think those later 2 out of options so they get first crack.

              Not very sexy signings except maybe the CF, but that would be a substantial upgrade over Cousins, D. Murphy, Hayes, and B. Petersen who they replace, and with hopeful significant improvement from Morrison, Reyes, Buck, Gaby, and no two month injuries to Stanton and Bonifacio, I would hope the offense moves to middle of the pack and not bottom 3.

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              • #8
                If we sign Jhonny, I may go mibs/Volstad level on everyone.

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                • #9
                  so will jooj
                  Originally posted by Madman81
                  Most of the people in the world being dumb is not a requirement for you to be among their ranks.
                  Need help? Questions? Concerns? Want to chat? PM me!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Miamarlin21 View Post
                    He hasn't even played this year...
                    I know that but he's a risk. He's a guy I'd take a chance on.

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                    • #11
                      Dont want any of those CFs especially on 4/5 year deals.
                      Torrealba would probably get close to his $3.5 million he is getting this year again next year, and he simply isnt worth that. He is basically Buck with marginally better OBP skills but much less pop. They would combine for a legendarily bad catching duo.
                      Amy Adams, AKA Cinnamon Muff
                      Logan Morrison: "If baseball didn't exist, I would probably be ... like a curler. Or a hairstylist."
                      Noah Perio
                      Jupiter
                      39 AB
                      15 H
                      0 2B
                      0 3B
                      0 HR
                      0 BB
                      .385/.385/.385

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                      • #12
                        That guy was designated for assignment.

                        Rangers Designate Yorvit Torrealba For Assignment http://t.co/QQqhPd2W #mlb

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Todd View Post
                          They would combine for a legendarily bad catching duo.
                          Yeah, Torrealba is a big downgrade from Brett Hayes.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Hugg View Post
                            Yeah, Torrealba is a big downgrade from Brett Hayes.

                            Big whoop, hes marginally better than Brett Hayes. Torrealba is still terrible and costs about 6 times as much as Hayes.
                            Amy Adams, AKA Cinnamon Muff
                            Logan Morrison: "If baseball didn't exist, I would probably be ... like a curler. Or a hairstylist."
                            Noah Perio
                            Jupiter
                            39 AB
                            15 H
                            0 2B
                            0 3B
                            0 HR
                            0 BB
                            .385/.385/.385

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                            • #15
                              I don't think Torrealba is getting anything significant in free agency next year, and Hayes does hit arbitration and has a lot of service time so he will rise. It's not going to be a big discrepancy. Yorvit has around a .725 OPS last 350 PA vs RHP. Buck historically hits lefties. That is a good 60 games they can put Yorvit on RHP and hope for the best and allow Brantly all the time in the world to hit AAA pitching.
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                              I think post the trades, team will look

                              Buck
                              Morrison
                              Bonifacio
                              Reyes
                              Cox
                              Veteran Platoon LF
                              Significant Free Agent CF
                              Stanton
                              Dobbs, Ruggiano, Veteran C, Veteran 2B/3B, Gorkys

                              LF - A. Jones/Gomes/Hairston
                              CF - BJ/Bourn/Melky
                              C - Torrealba
                              2B/3B - Macier Izturis, whom allows Bonifacio to be constant rover at 2B/3B/LF and performance dictates who sticks at 3B and LF

                              SP - JJ, Buerhle, Nolasco, Turner, Eovaldi, with Hand in AAA
                              RP - Bell, Cishek, Webb, Dunn, LeBlanc, Sanabia, and it wouldn't hurt to get a veteran RHP to be 7th inning guy

                              Very unsexy, but that could be a middle of the pack offense, and the kid pitchers could surprise. I like JJ and Nolasco in walk years also. Pitch for the paycheck boys.

                              We'll see
                              Last edited by lou; 08-01-2012, 07:53 AM. Reason: Doublepost Merged

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