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    • Originally posted by Brigham E. Pujols View Post
      Could be a combination of Sinker/Split, since they effectively do the same thing anyway.
      Split is more of a change and a sinker is more of a fastball

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        • Please don't walk Tony Gwynn Jr...
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          Originally posted by Erick View Post
          Please don't walk Tony Gwynn Jr...
          Thanks.
          Last edited by Erick; 04-27-2011, 02:56 PM. Reason: Doublepost Merged

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          • So Brian Sanches is the only guy left in the pen if this happens to go longer then the next half inning.

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            • Originally posted by Mainge View Post
              Split is more of a change and a sinker is more of a fastball
              Split comes harder, I'd say.

              In practicality, though, they have the same break and spin. They also aren't thrown by enough separate pitchers to get different categories, I'd say.
              God would be expecting a first pitch breaking ball in the dirt because humans love to disappoint him.
              - Daft

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                • lets walk it off here!

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                  • Originally posted by Brigham E. Pujols View Post
                    Split comes harder, I'd say.

                    In practicality, though, they have the same break and spin. They also aren't thrown by enough separate pitchers to get different categories, I'd say.
                    Harder, as in more velocity? Not really.

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                    • Some of the best splitters (Roger Clemens comes to mind) came clocked in the low-90s. I would never want a change at that velocity.
                      God would be expecting a first pitch breaking ball in the dirt because humans love to disappoint him.
                      - Daft

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                      • I'm back. Let's fucking win this shit.
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                        • Originally posted by Brigham E. Pujols View Post
                          Some of the best splitters (Roger Clemens comes to mind) came clocked in the low-90s. I would never want a change at that velocity.
                          If you mean harder to hit, then yeah probably.
                          However, sinkers are usually harder, in terms of velocity.

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                          • Several pitchers in the bigs have low 90's, high 80's change ups. Splitters also move more like changeups.

                            Sinkers are effectively two seam fastballs.

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                            • Originally posted by MiamiHomer View Post
                              So Brian Sanches is the only guy left in the pen if this happens to go longer then the next half inning.
                              Day off tomorrow, so you've got a starter down there. Sanches can give you 2 or 3, Nunez could probably give you 2. No point in coaching for the 12th and 13th; I'd rather Leo than Mujica.

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                              • Go Marlz!
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