RVH/rotation Thoughts

[lou]

Well Sanabia and Winters will be in AA next year, and West, G. Taylor, Trahern, and maybe Tucker in AAA. Also have to imagine we get at least a progressed SP spec back with Uggla/Ross/Hermida/Cantu/whoever trades.

JJ, Nolasco, Volstad, Miller, RVH works on paper for me. Although I am more skeptical than you about him being a SP. I would still guess a max effort RP for 1-2 inning bursts.

[all black marlins hat]

RVH has done great in his 3 starts thus far, but I'm still worried.
Because in the past he's had good starts, and then failed miserably.
Hopefully he's here to stay.
He has looked much better and more rounded out as a pitcher.
But just seeing him get rocked so often before is a bit scary.
Hopefully it's not the case.
This team cannot afford to need a 4th and 5th starter going down the stretch, let alone just needing a 5th starter.

[BigGameFish]

I really think we call up another temporary guy (think Graham Taylor but not necessarily him). Anibal has started rehab and Fredi said way back in the day that he would rejoin the rotation when he's ready. Whoever gets the call will probably only make 2 starts before Anibal is ready to return.

How dare you utter Graham Tayor's name

[nny]

Well Sanabia and Winters will be in AA next year, and West, G. Taylor, Trahern, and maybe Tucker in AAA. Also have to imagine we get at least a progressed SP spec back with Uggla/Ross/Hermida/Cantu/whoever trades.

JJ, Nolasco, Volstad, Miller, RVH works on paper for me. Although I am more skeptical than you about him being a SP. I would still guess a max effort RP for 1-2 inning bursts.

arrrr

i never noticed how little IP he averaged per start

since '07 just 5 1/3rd.

even this year in AAA that's what he averaged

Was originally going to say "this isn't a Ryan Tucker situation"

but both average the same pitiful IP per start lol

So yeah probably just a RP.

meh

i'm holding out for now though.

GO SP RVH GO plz we could really use you

[nny]

arrrr

i never noticed how little IP he averaged per start

since '07 just 5 1/3rd.

even this year in AAA that's what he averaged

Was originally going to say "this isn't a Ryan Tucker situation"

but both average the same pitiful IP per start lol

So yeah probably just a RP.

meh

i'm holding out for now though.

GO SP RVH GO plz we could really use you

although we also have to look at what we have next year

JJ - has averaged 6 2/3rd start past 2 years
Ricky - has averaged 6 1/3rd start past 2 years (and, when on, averages over 7)
Volstad - has averaged 6 ip start past 2 years (and wouldn't be surprised if that goes up)

I mean, the rotation is filled with inning eaters. having one harden-esque 5 IP starter wouldn't ruin our bullpen.

[The_Godfather]

I've always been a huge RVH fan. Yea he has had some terrible outings, but he has the pure stuff to be a very good starting pitcher at the major league level. If he can fill out and improve his endurance (a big if but he's still so young), I could see him having 2009 Josh Johnson type seasons soon.

[Bucklin12]

I've always been a huge RVH fan. Yea he has had some terrible outings, but he has the pure stuff to be a very good starting pitcher at the major league level. If he can fill out and improve his endurance (a big if but he's still so young), I could see him having 2009 Josh Johnson type seasons soon.

Too much.

[The_Godfather]

Too much.

Not really. Look at the career minor league numbers. Not many thought Josh Johnson had this potential a few years ago, most had him pegged as your typical 'solid #3 starter type'. The 6 seasons he spent in the minors are comparable to RVH; Rick's may be better.

The big difference of course is Rick has been horrible in the majors, and he has fatigue issues, but I see it with his stuff the same way I saw it with JJ's stuff very early in his career.