New Stadium Dimensions Compared to Other Ballparks

[Party]

New Stadium Dimensions
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Dolphin Stadium

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(The Triangle at LSS is really 410ish, not 434)

Some of the bigger parks in the league...

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http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t202/cabsdeeptoleft/soflamarlinsballpark/turner.png

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Some of the smaller stadiums...

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Some of the older parks in the league...

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Not 100% but it's a good comparison.

Stadium is going to play like the Grand Canyon when the roof is closed.

Fans are going to be on top of the action down the lines. Almost no foul territory.

[Omar]

Good to see, though I still wish we would have a Teal Tower-like structure in LF to save us as much as the current one has in 17 years.

[Sashimi]

I'm really glad that they kept it a pitcher-friendly park. I'm not a fan of some of the band boxes that have been built recently in a shameless effort to generate more HRs.

And how cool were the Polo Grounds!

[Ralph]

Still think it's too pitcher friendly.

[Fritz]

I wish we could just have a neutral park. Unless you rope it down the lines, it's gonna be hard to hit a dinger.

[FishFF]

Yeah, we gon be Padres-lite

[jonathan2323]

the Stadium dimesions are ridiculous. i like pitcher friendly parks but 420,416 and 396 thats going to be a hard area to hit HRs.

[Omar]

I'm really glad that they kept it a pitcher-friendly park. I'm not a fan of some of the band boxes that have been built recently in a shameless effort to generate more HRs.

And how cool were the Polo Grounds!
The best. I'd take those dimensions in a heartbeat (with some added distance down the lines, of course.

Yeah, we gon be Padres-lite
We'll be worse, since the humidity weighs the ball down.

[Bobbob1313]

Whatever. It's neither a positive or a negative. Both teams have to play under the same conditions, it doesn't give anyone an advantage, so I don't really get into that discussion. I'd prefer a nuetral park, but I don't care either way

[MiamiHomer]

Mike Stanton's power knows no bounds.

[Omar]

Whatever. It's neither a positive or a negative. Both teams have to play under the same conditions, it doesn't give anyone an advantage, so I don't really get into that discussion. I'd prefer a nuetral park, but I don't care either way
Um, what

[Bobbob1313]

Both teams have to play in the park, so it doesn't inherently give one team an advantage. Oh, you can build your team to suit the park, but as the past few years have shown, the team you have is more important than what type of park you play in.

I would personally prefer a neutral park, but i don't really care one way or the other. I'm not going to jump for joy or curse because we are going to play in an absurdly over the top pitchers park.

[Omar]

The team you have and the park you play in aren't mutually exclusive, though, at all. Especially when you have 100 games (minimum) booked for pitcher's parks in the division per season.

[Bobbob1313]

Haven't we booked 100 games (minimum) the past few years in pitchers parks and haven't we still hit home runs and stuff?

The team you have is far more important than where you play. It's not like this park is only going to help our pitchers.
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Haven't we booked 100 games (minimum) the past few years in pitchers parks and haven't we still hit home runs and stuff?

The team you have is far more important than where you play. It's not like this park is only going to help our pitchers.

[Omar]

Hasn't Beinfest also said that the mold of this particular team (one sample out of 30) is supposed to be pitching and defense? Our power hitters are either gone (Jacobs), on their way out (Uggla), or the man himself (Hanley time).

[Namaste]

My .02

I'd rather our new ballpark be a pitchers park than Citizens type (which is a joke).

I totally understand how some will be disappointed. I like when HR's are events and not just "ho-hum" there goes another one. Plus, we'll have some really cool triples and some inside the parkers.

[Party]

The best. I'd take those dimensions in a heartbeat (with some added distance down the lines, of course.


We'll be worse, since the humidity weighs the ball down.

Eh, we'll have the roof closed on really humid days. Also SD can get really wet on some nights with the fog. I think it'll be similar to San Diego.

Roof closed, the Astro Dome is a good comp considering the dimensions are nearly the same.

[MiamiHomer]

I could have done without the weird triangle in center field but whatever.

[Bobbob1313]

Why is a park that increases home runs considered a joke, but not one that supresses them at a similar rate?

[Namaste]

Why is a park that increases home runs considered a joke, but not one that supresses them at a similar rate?



Because HR's should be hit far and not be routine fly outs?


:confused

[Bobbob1313]

And what about balls that are hit far and turned into routine outs?

[Party]

Because for the better part of 60 years, stadiums were similar to their modern day home run suppressing counterparts.

There are very few ballpark between '50 and '89 that were constructed for ML teams that had band box distances.

[Namaste]

bob2

I guess we can go round and round with this but I'm just giving my personal preference.

Everytime a ball clears the fence in (plug in any small ballpark) that was obviously not well hit, I cringe. Call me a traditionalist.

[Party]

And what about balls that are hit far and turned into routine outs?

That has been considered a norm.

A 315 foot shot in a new ballpark did not make a reappearance in baseball until the 1990s.

[Bobbob1313]

Aren't most of those the 'cookie cutters' we always criticize?

I'm just saying, I'd rather have a neutral than extreme either way, and I don't think there is a natural advantage to one over the other.

[Party]

The criticism of cookie cutters has nothing to do with dimensions.

[Namaste]

Compare the new stadium to Turner. It's not that much bigger. I've seen at least 20 games at Turner Field and I've never said, "oh man that ball was a seed, I can't believe it didn't get out".

[Party]

Turner Field is also 1,000 feet above sea level. The ball travels 8-10 feet further than a ball hit at a park of similar size at sea level. So it's played close to neutral.

Remember Atlanta-Fulton County was the Coors Field before there was a Coors Field despite having average dimensions.

[Namaste]

Ah, yes I forgot about the sea level factor.

Not sure if you guys have been to Turner but they have a big monument in the parking lot (located where Fulton County stood) where Aaron's HR landed.

[Sashimi]

Remember Atlanta-Fulton County was the Coors Field before there was a Coors Field despite having average dimensions.

Yep, "The Launching Pad."

[Omar]

Eh, we'll have the roof closed on really humid days. Also SD can get really wet on some nights with the fog. I think it'll be similar to San Diego.

Roof closed, the Astro Dome is a good comp considering the dimensions are nearly the same.
Wasn't the Astro Dome a hitter's park?

[Sashimi]

Wasn't the Astro Dome a hitter's park?

Not for HRs, as I recall. It was pretty spacious. I remember hearing things to the effect of: Glenn Davis could have hit a lot more HRs if hadn't played in the Astro Dome.

[Omar]

I guess my memories of the Astro Dome are so well rooted in the Killer B's that I just assume it was hitter friendly

[Sashimi]

I guess my memories of the Astro Dome are so well rooted in the Killer B's that I just assume it was hitter friendly

Because the outfield was so spacious, I think it was friendly average-wise
... that is, unless they tinkered with the dimensions during my baseball hiatus in the 90's.

[Namaste]

heh, funny you say that because I had a baseball hiatus myself in the 90's. 93'-96' to be exact

[Party]

The Astrodome was a solid pitchers' park in preventing home runs. Between '66 and '92 the dimensions were 340-390-406-390-340.