CJ Wilson: NY Post - Deal With Angels Complete

[Omar]

Let this thread be a clearinghouse for Wilson news throughout the silly season.

What we know
Marlins have been on in him for a very long time
Rangers are still in play for Wilson's services
Seen as the biggest prize on the FA market
Rumored to be seeking seven years

[....J....]

LMAO!!!! When did CJ become biggest prize of free agency? Did Pujols retire?

[Miamarlin21]

He meant pitching wise.

[Chewford]

I'll be willing to accept his brother Matt if we can't afford CJ.

[Erick]

What? He wants SEVEN years?

[MiamiHomer]

clarkspencer clarkspencer
#Marlins have definite interest in CJ Wilson


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[Swifty]

Eh, he's actually asked the Yankees for a meeting, they're considering it - granting him a meeting - (lulz). I don't really want him.

[MiamiHomer]

SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman
Cj wilson seeks 6 years for close to $120M. Good luck with that. #dreaming


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[Ramp]

so true, heyman

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U9BSpdDH_c

[Party]

Poor CJ.

Second tier baby!

[Chewford]

Eh, he's actually asked the Yankees for a meeting, they're considering it.


https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTvgNi4EtskUdfTB_cPwuRRWrswerz0l 8XsRSz0uIh04xSwSff0

[TheMendozaLine]

I'd much rather have Buehrle than the Douche CJ Wilson

[Beef]

How'd he douche?

[Erick]

C.J. Wilson has become rather underrated this offseason.

[Ramp]

I thought we needed more douche?

[Hugg]

How'd he douche?

He's straight edge.

That fuck.

[Beef]

Yeah, I figured we could bring him in so jOOj could have somebody to party with

[jOOj]

#gingeralecelebration

Even though I don't drink that trash. :o

[Ramp]

RT @SamMillerOCR spoke to somebody close to C.J. Wilson who told me C.J. Wilson doesn't tell people close to him about negotiations.

outstanding

[Swifty]

That is up there with the "godfather of his son, aren't quite as close friends as reported" quote.

[Big Z]

He's straight edge.

That fuck.

So am I, the fuck.

[Hugg]

Stop rubbing it in our faces!

[Swifty]

Unless the fallout from the post-season makes him more amenable to a short deal, I'd rather Buerhle. If it's both of them for 2 or 3 years, I'd rather the gamble with CJ.

[Big Z]

Stop rubbing it in our faces!

I am proud to say I have never smoked, drank or done drugs.

I also prefer Buehrle over CJ.

[jay576]

Maybe he does and that guy just isn't close to him.

[Madman81]

I am proud to say I have never smoked, drank or done drugs.


:cco

[Namaste]

I am proud to say I have never smoked, drank or done drugs.




Are you 11 years old?

:confused

[Big Z]

Are you 11 years old?

:confused

I am 24.

[Namaste]

I am 24.


Ah. nice.


No shame in no smoking, drinking, drugging.


Just not something you see much.



Keep it up and you'll look 25 when you turn 35.

[MiamiHomer]

C.J. Wilson is expected to meet with Marlins officials in Miami soon after Thanksgiving.
There are at least 13 teams interested in Wilson at this time and the bidding could easily rise above the Marlins' price range. But they have legitimate preliminary interest and will likely make an offer when the free agent left-hander visits, just as they did with free agent shortstop Jose Reyes and free agent first baseman Albert Pujols. Wilson, 30, posted a stellar 2.94 ERA and 206/74 K/BB ratio in 223 1/3 innings this past year for Texas. He's thought to be seeking a deal worth north of $100 million.

roto

[Chewford]

Did the Yankees give him a visit yet? http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/entries/icons/original/000/003/619/Untitled-1.jpg?1288903617

[MiamiHomer]

Coming in for a visit on Monday.

[Fishfan79]

I am proud to say I have never smoked, drank or done drugs.

I also prefer Buehrle over CJ.

tim teabow is that you?




Cant hurt to have this guy in for a visit but it sounds like his contract demands are well out of our price range

[Miamarlin21]

str8edgeracer C.J. Wilson
#miamiproblems RT @LoMoMarlins: This is a serious-ish question for my tanning bed expert Tweeps; are u supposed to tan naked? #DingDongBurn

So coming to Miami :) lol

[Beef]

Sigh

[Party]

He was tanning naked waiting for the Yankees to call.

[Beef]

Does that thing mean that Morrison wrote that original clever little tweet, MH?

[....J....]

Gonna take a wild guess here and say that soon after the Wilson visit, it will be reported that the Marlins made him an offer.

This thread will blow up with, "I told ya so's!!!" and then you'll find out the offer was far below your expectations.

Adios!!!

[Beef]

I was hoping to get your opinion on this. Your insight is valuable.

Where ya going?

[Metes]

Baby please don't go

[Valid]

And that makes the first time I've ever negged anyone. Ever.

[MiamiHomer]

joecapMARLINS joe capozzi
CJ Wilson very intrigued with #Marlins after team "rolled out red carpet" 4 him today in Miami. CJ could make decision at winter meetings


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[Valid]

But it's all a ruse! We really just made him a 10 dollar offer and brought him in just to say we tried!

[Beef]

We might never know.

Except, if we don't sign him, it was undoubtedly a ruse. And if we do sign him, that's something too. So I guess we will know.

[marlins_virus.exe]

http://memepics.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/its-a-trap-cat.jpg
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i was gon post a different pic but went with that one cause beef showed up

[Beef]

Awww, it's a cat

mk7, do you have the power to take your name out of that one thread title that has your name in it?

[Valid]

We might never know.

Except, if we don't sign him, it was undoubtedly a ruse. And if we do sign him, that's something too. So I guess we will know.
Yet somehow, we may still never know.

[Beef]

...J... will know

[MiamiHomer]

Over lunch at Joe's Stone Crab and during a visit to their new stadium, the Marlins told left-hander C.J. Wilson that they want him in their starting rotation next year.

To emphasize the point, Marlins owner Jeffrey Loria led the ballpark tour Monday.

"They rolled out the red carpet. They seem to have a plan and made it very clear they'd like CJ to be a part of it,' said Bob Garber, Wilson's agent.

"I think he really impressed everybody today with his charisma. I think he'd be a great fit in South Florida.'

Garber wouldn't comment when asked if the Marlins made an offer to the free agent, but he said Wilson "probably" would make a decision next week during baseball's winter meetings in Dallas.

The Marlins face lots of competition for Wilson, who has been the No. 1 starter for the American League champion Texas Rangers for the past two seasons.

Wilson, a native of Southern California, had dinner with members of the Los Angeles Angels front office last week. Garber also has met with the Washington Nationals and New York Yankees.

Wilson has not ruled out returning to Texas, where he started his career in 2005 as a relief pitcher.

"It may be a deal where he comes back and says, 'I want to be in Texas,' and it makes sense and we're able to work something out, and it may not," Rangers General Manager Jon Daniels told reporters last week in Texas. "C.J. is looking for what the market will bring. He deserves to be well-compensated."

Wilson, 31, is 41-35 in his career with a 3.60 ERA. But he has pitched exclusively as a starter only since 2010, proving to be durable with 67 starts and 427 innings while going a combined 31-15 with a 3.14 ERA.

Garber also represents 34-year-old Roy Oswalt, who was 9-10 with a 3.69 ERA for Philadelphia last season. The Marlins have expressed some interest in Oswalt but have made it clear they prefer Wilson.

First baseman Albert Pujols, shortstop Jose Reyes and left-hander Mark Buehrle visited with the Marlins earlier this month, and all three have received offers.

Miami Marlins court free agent left-hander C.J. Wilson (http://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/marlins/1999462.html)

[Chewford]

Looks like CJ Wilson no longing has to cry in the corner, someone is finally paying attention to him!

[Metes]

Everybody just likes free meals at Joe's Stone Crab

[The Hanram]

Everybody just likes free meals at Joe's Stone Crab

What can they say....that creamed spinach has a lot of charisma!

[Jorge18]

Am I the only one who thinks Prime 112 is nicer than Joe's?

[Fishfan79]

Am I the only one who thinks Prime 112 is nicer than Joe's?


difference is there are better steak houses then prime 112 in the country but not better stone crabs in the US :)

[Metes]

Joe's has the Jeffrey room

Where you can be slipped a Jeffery

[Party]

Loria: "And this is where we will have the greatest home run celebration in the whole wide world! The marlin spins donchaknow!!!"

CJ: "I see."

Loria: "You're from Texas, you wouldn't understand. Miami! International! Colors!"

[Ramp]

obviously a ruse of some sort

[Hugg]

BenjBowman Ben Bowman
@str8edgeracer How was the new Marlins stadium? assuming you saw it today

str8edgeracer C.J. Wilson
@BenjBowman its really great to be honest, and much better location than the old one

but is it the coolest ballpark ever?

[Beef]

Ask him, he will be honest

[mbitcronod12]

@SI_JonHeyman: latest word is cj wilson asked #LAAngels for $100M. played at fountain valley hs, santa ana jc & loyola. #hometowndiscount

/Twitter

Might be hard to land him if he's willing to take less to play in LA.

[Big Z]

He's not getting $100 million in LA, and is not worth $100 million anywhere. Why would you pay him more than Weaver.

Weaver got 85/5 from LAA and he gave them a discount (huge discount if you ask me), and CJ is asking for $100 mil with a discount? That's just too funny. Good luck CJ.

[Chewford]

Everybody just likes free meals at Joe's Stone Crab

After hearing about how low a lot of these offers are, I think Loria asked for separate bills.

[Miamarlin21]

Has anyone actually been to Joe'S Stone Crab?

[Beef]

After hearing about how low a lot of these offers are, I think Loria asked for separate bills.

Chewie, at first I thought ...J... posted this

[Big Z]

Has anyone actually been to Joe'S Stone Crab?

I have, it's VERY good. They're Lobster Bisque is amazing and so is the Mahi-Mahi. My girlfriend loves their stone crabs, I'm not huge on eating that.

You want to get a good bang for your buck, go to POC. POC is a buffet (about 16/lunch and 22/dinner per person) that serves everything. Fresh made Sushi, Stone Crabs, Ribeye, Churrasco, fried rice and a bunch of other food. Also, their dessert is great, specially the Thai Donuts.

Whenever you guys have a chance give this place a shot, you won't regret it.

[Metes]

I have declared for free agency, hopefully I'll get my ballpark tour soon

[Miamarlin21]

You can't declare when you're likely just going to be non-tendered, Metes.

[lou]

ave them a discount (huge discount if you ask me), and CJ is asking for $100 mil with a discount? That's just too funny. Good luck CJ.

Weaver had a year of arbitration left so the Angels had some leverage over him. They would never have to go to the annual $23-25 with what Cliff/CC are getting. Saying that, Weaver is getting $16-16-$18-$20 in his free agency years, which is a bargain even considering the arbitration card. I think the Angels probably saved $3 million a season on these years from what Weaver could have realistically asked for and received given his service time. Overall, we're talking $10-15 million over 5 years and did not have to guarantee a 6th year (which I think is a bigger deal than the annual savings). So yea, Angels saved some bucks and backend. It's a great pro-club deal, but not comparable to a purely free agent CJ.

CJ is more comparable to Lackey and Burnett (each 5/$82). I don't blame CJ for shooting for the moon with $100-120 over 5-6, but at the end of the day no one is going to do that and 5/$85 is a realistic ballpark of where he should land. Weaver simply had arbitration, and gave up a little which was his decision. He is not a market setter for CJ.

[Swifty]

Olney thinks we're likely to land CJ:

Buster Olney

@ciaogabrielle If I had to guess here today: I'd say Marlins, for about $75-$80 million.

https://mobile.twitter.com/#!/buster_espn/status/141635833190035456

[Omar]

I wonder if he just doesn't see many teams going after him or if there's something significant about our interest in him versus Buerhle

[Swifty]

Maybe both?

I still don't love the idea of CJ but if it's less than $100 mil, why not. As big a risk as he may be, isn't JJ staying healthy an equally big (if not larger) risk?

[Big Z]

It seems as if CJ is Loria's SP priority this off-season and if he's coming at 75-80 mil, I'm biting.

[Omar]

I suppose. If we can get Wilson, Reyes, and Cespedes at reasonable numbers it'd be a pretty good offseason.

[Big Z]

What if we get Wilson, another SP (via trade or FA) and Aramis Ramirez :)

Anyone know what Aramis is asking for? I'm kind of scared of getting him, but at the same time intrigued. I also like Fielder on a 4-5 year contract, but there's no need to get a 1B, that still leaves a hole at 3B.

[Ramp]

Fuck Aramis Ramirez.

[Omar]

What if we get Wilson, another SP (via trade or FA) and Aramis Ramirez :)

Anyone know what Aramis is asking for? I'm kind of scared of getting him, but at the same time intrigued. I also like Fielder on a 4-5 year contract, but there's no need to get a 1B, that still leaves a hole at 3B.
Why would you want Ramirez over Reyes, other than price?

[Big Z]

Why would you want Ramirez over Reyes, other than price?

In case Reyes falls through, that's all. I want Reyes and he wants us. I'm sure he will be a Marlin in '12, I am just saying I don't mind Ramirez in the scenario that we lose Reyes.

[Erick]

He's not getting $100 million in LA, and is not worth $100 million anywhere. Why would you pay him more than Weaver.

Weaver got 85/5 from LAA and he gave them a discount (huge discount if you ask me), and CJ is asking for $100 mil with a discount? That's just too funny. Good luck CJ.

Weaver wasn't a free agent.
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Weaver had a year of arbitration left so the Angels had some leverage over him. They would never have to go to the annual $23-25 with what Cliff/CC are getting. Saying that, Weaver is getting $16-16-$18-$20 in his free agency years, which is a bargain even considering the arbitration card. I think the Angels probably saved $3 million a season on these years from what Weaver could have realistically asked for and received given his service time. Overall, we're talking $10-15 million over 5 years and did not have to guarantee a 6th year (which I think is a bigger deal than the annual savings). So yea, Angels saved some bucks and backend. It's a great pro-club deal, but not comparable to a purely free agent CJ.

CJ is more comparable to Lackey and Burnett (each 5/$82). I don't blame CJ for shooting for the moon with $100-120 over 5-6, but at the end of the day no one is going to do that and 5/$85 is a realistic ballpark of where he should land. Weaver simply had arbitration, and gave up a little which was his decision. He is not a market setter for CJ.


I wouldn't doubt that CJ Wilson gets $100 million from some team.

He's a free agent, and the market for SP is terrible; he's the best one out there.

Teams like the Nationals who are dying to make a splash it seems and have a recent history of overpaying/have a need for starting pitching...I could see a team like that making such a move.

[MiamiHomer]

Brendan_Tobin Brendan Tobin
More Bowden on Sirius XM: The #Angels & #Marlins both want C.J. Wilson but not at his price, only team that may step up is Washington


...

[Valid]

Washington is really dumb.

[Ralph]

I kinda hope they see what Houston wants for Wandy. His salary for 2 years is very nice and low risk.

[Party]

NatsTown!

[Valid]

Houston will probably ask for a lot for Wandy. Not sure if I'd be comfortable with the FO meeting what their price will likely be.

[lou]

I kinda hope they see what Houston wants for Wandy. His salary for 2 years is very nice and low risk.

His option becomes a player option, i.e. guaranteed, if he is traded, so it's really a 3/$36 contract if that changes your opinion.

[Miamarlin21]

I don't like what it would take for Wandy. No thanks. He's a number three to me.

[MiamiHomer]

jonmorosi Jon Morosi
Apart from Bell and Reyes news, #Marlins still have an offer out to C.J. Wilson, sources tell FOXSports.com.


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[jOOj]

Unzip.

[Valid]

Also:

7:42pm: Pitcher C.J. Wilson is not a top target for the Nationals, tweets MLB.com's Bill Ladson. One person told Ladson that the left-hander isn't really on the club's radar screen.

- MLBTR

[MiamiHomer]

jonmorosi Jon Morosi
C.J. Wilson has offers from #Angels, #Marlins and two other clubs, sources tell FOXSports.com.


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[Erick]

According to mlbtraderumors, CJ Wilson has already gotten a 6-year deal from some team.

[Party]

Better not be us.

[Erick]

I agree.

[MiamiHomer]

4:45 p.m. ET: C.J. Wilson has a six-year offer from a team other than the Rangers, reports Jeff Wilson. MLB Trade Rumors notes the Rangers, Angels, Nationals, Marlins and that dreaded "mystery team" are currently in the mix for Wilson's services. If he comes off the market, expect the heat to increase on the already-beloved Mark Buehrle. The two are easily the best left-handed starters out there.

From CBS

[tjfla]

The holdup with CJ Wilson seems to be that his camp wants to wait until Buehrle signs.

It is a win win for us no matter what,he got good offers out to both. First 1 who accepts will be here

[Omar]

If C.J. Wilson does in fact have a six-year offer, it is NOT from the #Marlins.
- JCR (via Twitter)

[Swifty]

Good

[MiamiHomer]

Nationals want to one up their Werth deal from last year most likely.

[Marlins11]

I want Buehrle more than Wilson.

[Miamarlin21]

Same. I see Buehrle more of a number two than Wilson.

[Mainge]

How so?

[Miamarlin21]

I just have always thought he was better than him. And if you were expecting a statistical analysis, then you don't know me.

[MiamiHomer]

I think the only thing favoring a Buehrle signing is just the fact he'd cost less. Wilson is the superior pitcher.

[DropkickAlex]

I think the only thing favoring a Buehrle signing is just the fact he'd cost less. Wilson is the superior pitcher.

And it's not even close.

[Mainge]

I just have always thought he was better than him. And if you were expecting a statistical analysis, then you don't know me.

So if I'm expecting you to defend your position with facts and information, I shouldn't?

Got it.

[Miamarlin21]

So if I'm expecting you to defend your position with facts and information, I shouldn't?

Got it.

I'm just saying you are asking a question to which you know you're not going to get the type answer you want.

[MiamiHomer]

I'm just saying you are asking a question to which you know you're not going to get the type answer you want.

No offense, but no one is going to care for your opinion on things like this if all you are going to provide is "Oh I just think he's better".

[Mainge]

I'm just saying you are asking a question to which you know you're not going to get the type answer you want.

I did not know what to expect so I was asking you to elaborate.

[Miamarlin21]

No offense, but no one is going to care for your opinion on things like this if all you are going to provide is "Oh I just think he's better".

I never asked anyone to care.

[MiamiHomer]

Alright then.

[MiamiHomer]

Jim_Duquette Jim Duquette
Source- Nats are the team offering 6th year to CJ Wilson.


What did I tell ya!

[Miamarlin21]

MH you stay on Twitter.

[mbitcronod12]

Nothing they do surprises me after that Werth deal last year. They'll probably offer Buerhle a full no-trade and sign him, too.

[Marlins11]

I can't see a situation with Wilson fulfilling his contract.

[Party]

I can't see a situation with Wilson fulfilling his contract.

Good.

[Metes]

I can't see a situation with Wilson fulfilling his contract.

I'll bite

How so?

[Fritz]

Metes fulfills all his contracts.

[Chewford]

People with the surname Wilson are proven to be dirty, filthy liars.

[Metes]

Metes fulfills all his contracts.

A Wilson always pays his debts

[Marlins11]

He wants more than what he deserves and won't play great for 6 years at 20 mil a year worthy?

[Metes]

You could probably say that about any free agent pitcher

I was just wondering if you had any kind of insightful statistical analysis about an unimpressive K/BB ratio, or an unsustainable BABIP, or potential fatigue after two 200+ IP seasons after several years as a reliever

[Marlins11]

That's all a given.

[Metes]

Ah, so I should just assume that you've looked into all that stuff in the future?

[mbitcronod12]

@Jon_Heyman: According to @Jim_Duquette, nats are team offering 6 yrs for cj wilson. Can't see angels (or anyone else) matching

/Twitter

[Marlins11]

sure thing sarcastic heath bell metes internet smart ass.

[MiamiHomer]

huh

[Metes]

sure thing sarcastic heath bell metes internet smart ass.

:mischief

Good. Because it would be a shame if you made unsupported opinions all over the place.

[Marlins11]

I gave you support. The fact he looked underwhelming at times last year and that he was a former bullpen guy is well known.

[MiamiHomer]

That's weak support.

[DropkickAlex]

I gave you support. The fact he looked underwhelming at times last year and that he was a former bullpen guy is well known.

He had his best season ever last year and it was only his second year as a full time starter.

[MiamiHomer]

EyeOnBaseball Eye on Baseball
RT @AdamKilgoreWP: I am getting the sense the report of a six-year offer to C.J. Wilson is probably NOT true. Still digging. We'll see.


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[Mainge]

A (Victor C)ruz?

[MiamiHomer]

JimBowdenESPNxm JIM BOWDEN
Mike Rizzo just told me the Nats did not go to 6 years on CJ Wilson


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[Valid]

I bet it's the Yankees.

/mindless speculation

[MiamiHomer]

Or the whole rumor of someone offering 6 years was wrong to begin with.

[MiamiHomer]

jonmorosi Jon Morosi
Source: #Angels making a serious push to sign C.J. Wilson.


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[Hugg]

CJ Wilson tweeted something MH

[MiamiHomer]

MikeDiGiovanna Mike DiGiovanna
Agent for C.J. Wilson confirms that he met with #Angels last night, he's meeting with #Marlins right now and with #Rangers tonight.


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Ken_Rosenthal Ken Rosenthal
Source: #Marlins fading on CJ Wilson. Makes sense, given Pujols pursuit. #MLB


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[tjfla]

If we get Pujols,the talk is we will trade Gaby for a SP

[MiamiHomer]

jonmorosi Jon Morosi
C.J. Wilson's agent met with #Marlins today. That possibility isn't gone -- yet.


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[lou]

If we get Pujols,the talk is we will trade Gaby for a SP

I am not making fun of you, but this is ground breaking journalism for whoever breaks this story

[Miamarlin21]

Going along with the Wade-James-Bosh comparison:


jluckhaupt Joel Luckhaupt
He'd be Zydrunas Ilgauskas, right? RT @jonmorosi: C.J. Wilson's agent met with #Marlins today. That possibility isn't gone -- yet.

[Ramp]

stop that

[mbitcronod12]

@Jon_Heyman: #rangers offer to cj wilson believed to be about 60 for 4. Again, if he has legit 6-yr offer, he should take it

/Twitter

[mbitcronod12]

We may really need to hope we get Pujols because it sounds like the Angels are getting close to signing CJ. At least, that's what I'm getting from this.

@Ken_Rosenthal: #Angels already drawing trade interest in E. Santana in anticipation of possible C.J. Wilson signing. #MLB

/Twitter

[Party]

karlravechespn karl ravech
Source tells me that marlins have gone to 6 years on cj Wilson..what does this say about Albert and Miami?

-Tweet

[Omar]

It says nothing

[Erick]

Please don't give him six years.

[Ramp]

strong strong rumor going around that CJ signed with the Angels
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strong strong rumor going around that CJ signed with the Angels

well, guess this wasn't true

[MiamiHomer]

Verducci says the Marlins have indeed offered a 6 year deal to Wilson.

[TheMendozaLine]

Strong, strong rumor going around that the Marlins' brass is comprised of three badasses and a Harvard graduate.

[MiamiHomer]

DKnobler DKnobler
C.J. Wilson final decision not expected before late tonight, maybe tomorrow. Angels clear favorite at this point.


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[The_Godfather]

Verducci says the Marlins have indeed offered a 6 year deal to Wilson.

Hope so. I much prefer Wilson to Buerhle though don't really care for either. We are dead set on spending too much money though so hey...take the higher upside guy, I suppose.

[MiamiHomer]

karlravechespn karl ravech
Reported marlins offered CJ 6 yrs 3 hours ago


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Ken_Rosenthal Ken Rosenthal
Multiple sources tell me and @jonmorosi that C.J. Wilson has 6-year offer from #Marlins, confirming report by Tom Verducci. #MLB


Confirmed everywhere
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jonmorosi Jon Morosi
Source: If #Angels don't match #Marlins' six-year offer, C.J. Wilson likely to sign with Miami. @MLBONFOX


This can maybe happen soon..

[DropkickAlex]

I think CJ Wilson really wants to be an Angel.

[Omar]

Bump so people can see MH's post about Marlins being favorites

[Bucklin12]

Gahhhhh. 6 years is a lot. Buerhle for 4 is so much better.

Whatever though. Still would be nuts.

2012 Miami Marlins: Fuck it.

[TheMendozaLine]

I hope we get both CJ and The Marco Burly

[MiamiHomer]

DKnobler DKnobler
Marlins know C.J. Wilson prefers west, know they need to overpay to have a chance. Their 6-year offer gives them real chance


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[mbitcronod12]

If the Angels are offering him 5, I would think they'd still be the favorites unless we're offering a shit ton more money. Unkess the money is way more, I would think he'd favor his hometown Angels.

[Omar]

I hope we get both CJ and The Marco Burly
I think Buerhle is worth an extra mil or two a year just so we can get to hear Felo mispronounce his name every five days

[Swifty]

CJ and Buehrle would be awesome, if at all possible.

[Erick]

If the Angels are offering him 5, I would think they'd still be the favorites unless we're offering a shit ton more money. Unkess the money is way more, I would think he'd favor his hometown Angels.

If the Angels are offering 5 and we are offering 6, CJ Wilson would be silly to not sign with us.

[TheMendozaLine]

@karlravechespn
Wilson on his way to Texas with anticipation of deal within 48 hours

[MiamiHomer]

I feel like this was a tough scenario for the Marlins. I think teams have to overpay in some respect to get the type of players they have gone after. If they tried to be smart with their offers, chances are they get outbid and miss out so they might not have a choice but to go above what they consider true value for these guys if they want to prove to everyone they can acquire talent.

[Swifty]

Overpay with a NTC, not an extra year.

[MiamiHomer]

I'd rather the extra year than a NTC.

[Ramp]

don't have to worry about a NTC, it won't happen

[Swifty]

I don't want to give CJ a NTC. ;)

[Ramp]

could be anyone, still not happening ;)

[mbitcronod12]

If the Angels are offering 5 and we are offering 6, CJ Wilson would be silly to not sign with us.

Cliff Lee took less last year to return to Philly where he wanted to be. I'd imagine CJ might do the same if it's a chance to play for his hometown team. It's also been mentioned that he prefers the west coast.

Not saying I don't want him, I do. I'd actually prefer him to Buehrle. I just think it's going to be harder to get him with the Angels making a strong push and the Rangers could also up their offer if they lose out on Buehrle.

[Namaste]

Way rather have Buerhle for 3 than CJ for 6

[mbitcronod12]

@Jon_Heyman: #rangers people were debating whether to go to 5 yrs for wilson. They likely would, but that won't beat #marlins' reported 6

/Twitter

[Erick]

Cliff Lee took less last year to return to Philly where he wanted to be. I'd imagine CJ might do the same if it's a chance to play for his hometown team. It's also been mentioned that he prefers the west coast.

Not saying I don't want him, I do. I'd actually prefer him to Buehrle. I just think it's going to be harder to get him with the Angels making a strong push and the Rangers could also up their offer if they lose out on Buehrle.

I'm just saying, he's turning down a lot of year six money.

And I say that as a person who doesn't really want this to happen, despite the fact I think he's a good pitcher/better than Buehrle (or at least more upside).

[MiamiHomer]

Ken_Rosenthal Ken Rosenthal
Still not out of the question: Wilson to #Angels, Buehrle to #Marlins. But Buehrle going to NL. #MLB


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[Erick]

Karl Ravech says it's possible we get both.

[MiamiHomer]

Already has been mentioned in the thread

[DropkickAlex]

Both pitchers or a pitcher along with Prince? I thought I heard both rumors but I forget by now haha.

[MiamiHomer]

MAybe Buehrle and Prince or both pitchers, no way CJ and Prince(at least I assume).

[Beef]

Already has been mentioned in the thread

Somebody tell MH that this is my job

[MiamiHomer]

jcrasnick Jerry Crasnick
I'm hearing that C.J. Wilson's decision is pretty much down to the #Angels and #Marlins.


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Jon_Heyman Jon Heyman
Belief is cj wants to go west (angels) but marlins very aggressive. Angels very practiced at finishing 2nd.


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[Marlins11]

Go West CJ.
Buehrle and Fielder please.

[Chewford]

So I'm guessing he never got that visit with the Yankees?

[Ralph]

So what are we looking at? 6/90?

[Swifty]

Ehe Angles practiced at finishing second.

[Beef]

Right angle

[mbitcronod12]

@Jon_Heyman: Wilsons 6-yr offer from marlins likely gone now. #LAAngels look back in lead. Good spot for cj anyway.

/Twitter

[MiamiHomer]

Jon_Heyman Jon Heyman
Guess what? I'm told marlins still trying for wilson even after landing buehrle (and reyes and bell). Talking to prince too


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jonmorosi Jon Morosi
Asked #Marlins source if they are out on CJ Wilson. His reply: "Not yet."


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JCRMarlinsbeat Juan C. Rodriguez
Confirmed: #Marlins and Mark Buehrle agree to 4-yaer, $58 million contract. Remain in on C.J. Wilson.


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ScottMCBSSports Scott Miller
C.J. Wilson deal expected to go down later tonight. Angels are clubhouse leader.


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[Omar]

We signin' errbody

[MiamiHomer]

DKnobler DKnobler
Marlins still trying hard for C.J. Wilson. And one more time, no, they are not trading Hanley


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[Miamarlin21]

Two second later:

DKnobler DKnobler
Edit, yes, they are trading Hanley



/dontnegme

[MiamiHomer]

I don't see that in his feed.

[jOOj]

M21 is a liar.

[MiamiHomer]

MikeDiGiovanna Mike DiGiovanna
Source confirms reports #Marlins offer to CJ Wilson still on table, despite Buehrle agreement. #Angels, #Rangers are other two finalists.


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[Valid]

JJ, C.J., Buehrle, Anibal, and Nolasco (if he doesn't get traded) would be all kinds of awesomeness.

[TheMendozaLine]

@TheMendozaLine
Sources: Jeffrey Loria desperately pursuing a personalized LeBatard rant

[MiamiHomer]

I think Nolasco probably gets moved like I think Lou or Ralph suggested. LoMo gets put at 1st and Gaby gets moved as well.

[Valid]

I think Nolasco probably gets moved like I think Lou or Ralph suggested. LoMo gets put at 1st and Gaby gets moved as well.
No matter what or only if we sign C.J.?

[MiamiHomer]

Only if CJ signs

Jon_Heyman Jon Heyman
Strong belief is angels are just talking to pujols as some leverage against cj wilson. LAA is at 5 yrs for cj, marlins at 6

[Erick]

I think Nolasco probably gets moved like I think Lou or Ralph suggested. LoMo gets put at 1st and Gaby gets moved as well.

Why would Gaby get moved, at this point?

[Ramp]

perhaps for a pitcher

[Ecpot]

TrippingOlney Not Buster Olney
IT IS NOW. RT @MShadows17: @TrippingOlney IS SIGNING WITH THE MARLINS TOO MAINSTREAM FOR #HIPSTERCJWILSON?

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[mbitcronod12]

Rosenthal just said on the MLB Network that the majority of executives think CJ will go to LA.

[Ramp]

He should sign with the Cubs so he can hang out with his straight-edge boyfriend, Phil Brooks

[jOOj]

Well he has me in Miami. <3

[Ramp]

Wait... you're no longer in my hood?

[Metes]

Y'all can be pals again

[Ramp]

acquaintances

[MiamiHomer]

Why would Gaby get moved, at this point?

Assuming they could get an outfielder for Nolasco and move LoMo to take away his liability in the field would be a strong move. Seeing how vast the outfield will be it seems the sooner we can move LoMo from LF, the better.

[jOOj]

acquaintances

Why have we distanced so much?

[MiamiHomer]

JoeFrisaro Joe Frisaro
Look for #Marlins to stay in on Wilson mainly because, not only is he good, but he costs just money. Teams want a lot on trade front


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[Jorge18]

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"just money" lol must be nice to be THAT rich.

[TheMendozaLine]

"just money" lol must be nice to be THAT rich.

@DKnobler
One veteran scout, on Marlins: "They're spending years' worth of revenue sharing money, all at once."

[Madman81]

Money that should have Cabrera at first base

sigh

[Ramp]

absolutely agreed

they need to lockup Stanton ASAP

[Mainge]

ASAP.

Give Stanton those 10 years.

[TheMendozaLine]

@JimBowdenESPNxm
Sounds like C.J. Wilson leaning towards Angels rather than Rangers & Marlins..of course he was born in Newport, spent time in Manhatten bch

[Party]

ASAP.

Give Stanton those 10 years.

Does it go to eleven?

[Ramp]

Let's not get crazy here, Stanton is not Rick DiPietro!

[The Hanram]

Let's not get crazy here, Stanton is not Rick DiPietro!

Don't make me cast aspersions on you! :fist

[MiamiHomer]

ScottMCBSSports Scott Miller
All appearances are that Marlins and Angels are locked in stretch-run of derby to land P C.J. WIlson.


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[Big Z]

We should all tweet CJ Wilson "please sign with Miami!".. Every push counts :)

^ serious.

[MiamiHomer]

LoMoMarlins Logan Morrison
@str8edgeracer I want to sing u a song. I'm so excited, I just can't hide it and I know, i know, I know I want u I want u #nohomojustlomo


LoMo doing his part

/Beef wants to pluck his eyes out after seeing that

[Big Z]

LoMo doing his part

/Beef wants to pluck his eyes out after seeing that

:D come on guys, let's fucking do it. What do we have to lose?

I asked LoMo to help us persuade him lol, I think LoMo knows something we don't (they're friends).

[Beef]

I rolled em

eye rolled em

[Big Z]

Source: #Marlins "best bet" for Wilson. #Angels close second. #MLB

Kenny "I've been off today" rosenthal

[TheMendozaLine]

Best bet! Oh boy!

[Beef]

OUR TWEETS PUT US IN THE LEAD

[MiamiHomer]

By the way, did anyone see the pics of Rosenthal basically resting on the floor leaning on a wall last night at like 3-4am. Guy probably hasn't gone to sleep.

[Beef]

Yeah, they were posted here and someone thought the ornaments were fruit

[Ramp]

won't lie, I enjoyed #nohomojustlomo

[MiamiHomer]

JimBowdenESPNxm JIM BOWDEN
Unconfirmed report that C.J. Wilson waiting to hear if Angels will go to 6-years before deciding to accept Marlins last proposal


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[Chewford]

dat staff

[TheMendozaLine]

JJ
CJ
LeMarco Burly
Sanchez
[insert 5th starter here]

Very nice

[MiamiHomer]

davehydesports Dave Hyde
Marlins, bored with inactivity, closing in on C.J. Wilson, multiple reports say.


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[Miamarlin21]

Party rock is in the house tonighttttt

[TheMendozaLine]

@joe_sheehan
Could we stop saying the Marlins have "spent" X? They haven't, and if any team shows why that word is wrong, it's the Marlins.

RUSE!

[Chewford]

I like to offer multi-million dollar contracts when I'm bored too.

[mbitcronod12]

I still don't see how we can support a payroll this big. I think the last I read about a contract for CJ was 6/$90 million. That takes our current payroll to $120 million ($128 with Oveido/Volstad). If we get CJ, someone with a big contract (Nolasco?) has to be out the door.

[Mainge]

And no Oviedo/Volstad.

[Swifty]

Hand or Sanabia is the 5th. Volstad and Ricky go bye bye.

[Miamarlin21]

If we did keep Ricky, that would be pretty nice.

[mbitcronod12]

That $120 million is without Volstad. Dumping Ricky still only takes us down to $111 million. That's still a ton and doesn't include two other guys for the bench.

[Swifty]

Yeah. Well be fine at $111

[MiamiHomer]

Jon_Heyman Jon Heyman
#LAAngels people here have suggested they won't go 6 yrs for cj wilson. If that holds, miami likely holds edge


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[Miamarlin21]

Get on your knees bitches.

[Big Z]

Maybe we can trade Ricky & Gaby somewhere for an OF bat and put LoMo at 1B

[Miamarlin21]

Maybe we can trade Ricky & Gaby somewhere for an OF bat and put LoMo at 1B

Like?

[TheMendozaLine]

Wade LeBlanc would like to remind you that he too was an offseason acquisition!

[Big Z]

Like?

That's where I let the FO do the work, lol.

[Metes]

Like?

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