Hanley and .400

[nny]

Hanley is currently leadings the NL with a .351 batting average. Impressive, but far from .400.

But could he hit that mark?

From here on out, Hanley should get some 150 abs. If we assume that exact number, to get to .400 he would have to get 80 more hits, or a .533 batting average.

How unprecedented is that?

Only two times since 1969 has a player finished a month with a .500 or better average: Todd Helton in 2000 (.512) and Pudge Rodriguez in 2004 (.500). A couple other close calls were George Brett (.494, 1980) and Rob Carew (.486, 1977).

Not only that, but that was only during a month. Hanley would have to sustain that productivity for a month and a half. Improbable? Yeah. But impossible? No.

And while Hanley is currently hitting .400 so far this month, he's only finished above .400 for a month once in his career (.424, July 2007).

Now one of the more interesting things is Hanley's drop in HRs. His HR/FB% is down over 7%, from 19.2% to 12.1%. Now, hanley's drop in power is due to some mechanical changes, which also allowed him to have a better ability to hit for BABIP. So, it's really a choice of one or the other, you can't have the best of both worlds. But, since this is just a "having fun with numbers", we're going to have the best of both world. If Hanley were able to sustain his previous HR/FB with his new BABIP, he'd have 10 more hits. In other words, he'd be hitting .376, making his journey for .400 a lot more likely. As he matures could he combine both his BABIP talent and HR talent? Possible, and by god look out if he does.

Now one can't bring up .400 for Hanley without bringing up the major league leader in batting average, Joe Mauer. He's currently hitting .367 and also has over 70 less AB then Hanley, meaning 1 hit (or out) has a higher impact. For Mauer to get to the .400 mark, again assuming 150 ABs, he'd have to "just" hit .473.

[The Hanram]

Where do you have the time to do all these stats analysis?

much dap to you.

[MiamiHomer]

Mauer actually went 2/4 this afternoon moving his average up to .370

[Namaste]

No one will hit .400 in our lifetime.

/can see into the future

Cool thread though sir.

[MiamiHomer]

I think Mauer gon do it. The fact he is a catcher just makes it that more incredible if he does.

[Omar]

I definitely think a .400 average will be seen in the next 50 years.....but no more than twice

[Ramp]

check out what Matt Holliday has done in 18 games with STL

something like .470

[marlinsbaseballrefugee]

I highly doubt that happening but it would be cool as hell.

[nny]

Where do you have the time to do all these stats analysis?

much dap to you.

took like 5 minutes lol batting averages are easy :sheep:

[Fritz]

Joe Mauer is just silly.

[MiamiHomer]

Mauer raised his average to .375 after got 3/3 yesterday.

[nny]

Hanley is only hitting .500 since the thread, 4/8. He needs to knock it up a notch.

[MiamiHomer]

Mauer 3/5 today...he isn't human.

[Omar]

In six days since this has been posted, Hanley has gone from .351 to .359.

Remember that joke we all used to make about Hanley getting bored sometimes to explain when he fails? Well, he's not bored at the moment.....

[MiamiHomer]

:h2r

[jonathan2323]

:h2r

[nny]

.489 since the creation of the thread (23/47)

Would have to hit .553 in September (57/103)

Something different to track though:

This is the latest Hanley has broken the 1.000 barrier

His previous latest he set this year actually. May 19th.

Before that, it was May 5th in '07.

Here's the doozie: In his career, Hanley has a OPS over 1.000 in September. Only once did he not break a 1.000 OPS for the month, in 2007 when it was only .970.

The Marlins have only had one previous 1.000 OPS hitter. Gary Sheffield, 2006.

Only three shortstops in the history of the game have finished the season with a OPS over 1.000: Alex Rodriguez (4 times), Nomar Garciapara (2 times), and Arky Vaughan (1 time, who also holds the OPS record at 1.098)

[Ramp]

Arky was the best draft pick I made in 1935.... 4th round pick... so money

[nny]

Arky was the best draft pick I made in 1935.... 4th round pick... so money

Came 3rd in MVP that year :lol

[Flum]

Just imagine having Miguel and Hanley back to back on this roster. Imagine it. I dare you.

We had two of the best hitters of this generation on the same team... Oh what could have been.

[nny]

Just imagine having Miguel and Hanley back to back on this roster. Imagine it. I dare you.

We had two of the best hitters of this generation on the same team... Oh what could have been.

From the other place:

If we kept Miguel, Hammer, and A-Gon, we'd have 4 batters with .950+ OPS.

only 3 times has a team finished with 4 batters with a .950+ OPS

1929 NL Chicago Cubs 4 Rogers Hornsby / Hack Wilson / Kiki Cuyler / Riggs Stephenson
1895 NL Philadelphia Phillies 4 Billy Hamilton / Sam Thompson / Ed Delahanty / Jack Clements
1894 NL Philadelphia Phillies 4 Billy Hamilton / Ed Delahanty / Sam Thompson / Tuck Turner

[Flum]

But we have Emilio Bonifacio :|

[The_Godfather]

From the other place:

If we kept Miguel, Hammer, and A-Gon, we'd have 4 batters with .950+ OPS.

only 3 times has a team finished with 4 batters with a .950+ OPS

1929 NL Chicago Cubs 4 Rogers Hornsby / Hack Wilson / Kiki Cuyler / Riggs Stephenson
1895 NL Philadelphia Phillies 4 Billy Hamilton / Sam Thompson / Ed Delahanty / Jack Clements
1894 NL Philadelphia Phillies 4 Billy Hamilton / Ed Delahanty / Sam Thompson / Tuck Turner

Fuck A Gon and the .950 OPSesseess. We'd have no 2nd world series with them. I'm happy where we are. Cool stat though...

[Fritz]

Fuck A Gon and the .950 OPSesseess. We'd have no 2nd world series with them. I'm happy where we are. Cool stat though...

Agreed, however, hindsight being 20/20 we should've given up on Jason Stokes instead.

[marlins_virus.exe]

Agreed, however, hindsight being 20/20 we should've given up on Jason Stokes instead.
then we'd have no johnny bake

[Swifty]

Forget having Miggy. Imagine if we got something of value for him in the trade. We'd be good.

[marlins_virus.exe]

Caught this tweet last night from Jon Heyman:

at marlins game as fan. just for hanley (3 for 3 so far, .365), worth admission price.

Hey, whatever it lacks in poetry it makes up for in clarity.

I knew, in a sort of off-handed way, that Hanley Ramirez is enjoying yet another brilliant season. But after looking at his actual season, I've come to believe that he must be the most underrated player in the major leagues and that probably nobody else is really all that close.

I also "knew" that Albert Pujols is so far ahead of everyone else in the National League that he's basically had the MVP locked up since Memorial Day. I don't get the impression that anyone's even talking about any other candidates. Somebody asks, "Who's the MVP in the National League?" and you say "Why, Albert Pujols of course!" And then it's on to the next burning topic.

Let's got back to this one for a minute, though. According to FanGraphs, there's virtually no difference this season between Pujols, Ramirez, and Chase Utley (which shouldn't be a big surprise, as those three have been among the league's best for three years running).

Granted, you'll get a different answer if you look at different metrics, at least one of which has Pujols way ahead of everyone else ... except for Tim Lincecum, who with a dozen wins in late August isn't anyone's -- well, except Jonah Keri -- idea of an MVP candidate.

Maybe Pujols really is the best player in the National League. He probably is. But there's a .365-hitting shortstop with power, playing for a contending team. Shouldn't we at least take a deep breath and think a few thoughts?

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/sweetspot

[nny]

It's rather presumptuous to say we won the world series because of that trade. I hate that that's brought up every time that trade is brought up.

We won the world series with making that trade, we did not win the world series because of that trade

[Fritz]

then we'd have no johnny bake

Adrian Gonzalez + Paulino + Dooo-dooo > Bake

[Ramp]

Actually we could have Johnny Bake still without Stokes

[nny]

we had baker without stokes!!!

Then we were like "he's too awesome to not trade anything for" so we gave him back and then traded for him

People are weird