2009-10 NFL Season Thread

[FishFanInPA]

OMGZ TRAINING CAMP TIME....

Location Date Begins
49ers' Camp Santa Clara, CA Jul-28
Bears' Camp Bourbonnais, IL Jul-31
Bengals' Camp Georgetown, KY Jul-31
Bills' Camp Pittsford, NY Jul-25
Broncos' Camp Englewood, CO Jul-30
Browns' Camp Berea, OH Aug-1
Buccaneers' Camp Tampa, FL Aug-1
Cardinals' Camp Flagstaff, AZ Jul-31
Chargers' Camp San Diego, CA Jul-31
Chiefs' Camp River Falls, WI Aug-1
Colts' Camp Terre Haute, IN Aug-3
Cowboys' Camp San Antonio, TX Jul-29
Dolphins' Camp Davie, FL Aug-1
Eagles' Camp Bethlehem, PA Jul-26
Falcons' Camp Flowery Branch, GA Aug-1
Giants' Camp Albany, NY Aug-3
Jaguars' Camp Jacksonville, FL Aug-3
Jets' Camp Cortland, NY Jul-27
Lions' Camp Allen Park, MI Jul-31
Packers' Camp Green Bay, WI Aug-2
Panthers' Camp Spartanburg, SC Aug-3
Patriots' Camp Foxboro, MA Jul-30
Raiders' Camp Napa Valley, CA Jul-29
Rams' Camp St. Louis, MO Jul-31
Ravens' Camp Westminster, MD Jul-28
Redskins' Camp Ashburn, VA Jul-30
Saints' Camp Metairie, LA Jul-31
Seahawks' Camp Renton, WA Aug-3
Steelers' Camp Latrobe, PA Aug-1
Texans' Camp Houston, TX Jul-31
Titans' Camp Nashville, TN Jul-31
Vikings' Camp Mankato, MN Jul-31

[Bingebag]

http://www.wolfereports.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/stafford.jpg

Matty Stafford w/ bitches.

[MiamiHomer]

The 2nd one from the left looks like she just passed out..the one on his right is omg.

[Ramp]

good to be the king

ps... rename it "NFL Season Thread"... Pro Football sounds silly

[Omar]

good to be the king

ps... rename it "NFL Season Thread"... Pro Football sounds silly

Good idea

:mischief

[Mainge]

good to be the king

ps... rename it "NFL Season Thread"... Pro Football sounds silly

+1

I've been meaning to post this for days.

[Fritz]

The blonde on the far left is delicious.

[wanks1212]

good to be the king

ps... rename it "NFL Season Thread"... Pro Football sounds silly

It shouldn't be pro football, because if that's the case then how would we differentiate the UFL from the NFL?

<--- actually intrigued by UFL
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Also, these new jerseys are quite handsome and make me question why the Bills continue to wear their abortions of current uniforms as opposed to the throwbacks

http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs140.snc1/5974_137511800658_72631215658_3737267_3049928_n.jp g

http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs140.snc1/5974_137512215658_72631215658_3737270_1450160_n.jp g


link to second image here (http://mypict.me/upload/0/3/733/3733162.jpg), it's too goddamn large

[Bingebag]

Those are awesome! They need to switch full-time.

[KnuckleBalls]

Sigh. I guess it's gonna be Sage for my Vikes.

[Metes]

The blonde on the far left is delicious.

Looks a heckuva lot like IzzI

[wanks1212]

Sigh. I guess it's gonna be Sage for my Vikes.

You say that like it's a bad thing. Favre wouldn't have been any better.

[Fritz]

Sage and Favre are probably quite similar at this point in their careers.

Good arms, make a reasonably high amount of retarded decisions, both have goofy last names.

[Mainge]

I think Jackson beats out Sage anywaay.

[MiamiHomer]

Sage and Favre are probably quite similar at this point in their careers.

Good arms, make a reasonably high amount of retarded decisions, both have goofy last names.

But John Madden only loves one of them....

/fuck I'm going to miss Madden.

[Longview]

lol Hideous. http://deadspin.com/5327950/breaking-the-world-is-a-magical-wonderful-place-and-bucco-bruce-is-back

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/11/2009/08/504x_ThrowbackPlayers.jpg

[Branch]

Those are the inaugural "we gon lose every game this season" jerseys, are they not?

I mean, with most teams throwbacks are cool, but why would you want to throwback to your franchise's most embarassing period? To fit in?

[Bingebag]

http://harveyhillyer.com/images/old_bucs_logo.bmp




:lol

[Longview]

lmao :lol, who the hell deisgned that uniform/logo and said, "pale orange and dark pink will look fucking awesome together." And thats not even mentioning the very flamboyant buccaneer winking at you.

[Fritz]

I forgot that Bucco Bruce winked. That's the most overtly homosexual thing in all of NFL-dom.

[Beef]

Mmmmm, I loves it

2009 will be the 30 year anniversary of the Bucs team that went to the NFC Title Game.

[Bobbob1313]

lmao :lol, who the hell deisgned that uniform/logo and said, "pale orange and dark pink will look fucking awesome together." And thats not even mentioning the very flamboyant buccaneer winking at you.

Didn't the team owner's wife pick the color scheme, or something? Someone told me that once.

[FishFanInPA]

Cornelius Ingram tore his ACL again. Out for the season. Ugh

[Junior]

Fuck anybody who hates on Bucco Bruce.

I bought one of the jerseys they are selling on bucs.com

[Jewbility]

Just went to Fins training camp and sat with the former players, and went to the alumni BBQ afterward. Met EVERYONE, it was great. Jake Long is gi-fucking-normous

And Oronde Gadsden was there, wearing some weird futuristic, eyes-wrapped-over-head-to-neck sunglasses from Oakley.

[Bingebag]

Bills vs Titans preseason game tonight!

[Marlinsfan4lyfe]

oh yea. tonights the hall of fame game. i completely forgot about it with all the marlins sweep excitement.

[Ralph]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RahX6f-47yE
:fip

[Junior]

:fip

[MiamiHomer]

That song is awesome.

[Fish and Chips]

another reason i want the pats to shut out the fins

[MiamiHomer]

another reason i want the pats to shut out the fins

You can go to hell.

[BigGameFish]

:rlymad:fip:rlymad:fip:rlymad:fip:rlymad:fip:shot: :thumbdown:thumbdown:thumbdown:rlymad


I'd rather hear :violin played after every TD than that obnoxious electric piano crap.

Stephan Ross needs to chill with the "fan friendly" attitude. I mean this has gone too far now. T-Pain? Are you serious? UGH.

[Longview]

Ugh, that song is terrible. Reminds me of the Gummy Bear and Crazy Frog. Might be okay with out the auto tune.

[Fish and Chips]

fail
it so cheesy and crappy

[MiamiHomer]

Stephan Ross needs to chill with the "fan friendly" attitude. I mean this has gone too far now. T-Pain? Are you serious? UGH.

I bet you a lot more people like it than you think.
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fail
it so cheesy and crappy

Not as cheesy as having fat men dance during a baseball game.

[Jewbility]

I thought it was good. A nice reimagining of an incredibly outdated song. I can definitely see that generating some electricity at the stadium

[BigGameFish]

I thought it was good. A nice reimagining of an incredibly outdated song. I can definitely see that generating some electricity at the stadium

If they take out the electric piano chimes I might agree

[Omar]

I mean, the other song was ridiculously cheesy. Everyone liked it because it was cheesy.

This song is totally cheesy, right down to the electric piano. It makes you laugh like the other one did! Plus it has T-Pain. Total win.

[Longview]

No love for "Fins for the Fish"?

http://www.miamidolphins.com/audio/FinsForTheFish.MP3

[wanks1212]

I enjoy the part of the video where Dan Marino's picture coincides with the "you're talking Super Bowl" lyrics. Because when I think about the Super Bowl, and the Dolphins' past success in the Super Bowl, Dan Marino is the first person that comes to mind.

[Longview]

Indeed, i wonder if we could squeeze Jim Kelly in there right next to him ;).

[Beef]

ehe, I lold uncontrollably at the part where it just kept repeating "EH, GOOWOOOO, GOOOHOOOO, CMOOOON, HEEH. HEEEEEAAAAY, HEEEH"

[Jewbility]

swear on your cats life that happened

[Beef]

The me lowling part? I listened three more times since and I lowllell out loud every time

[Junior]

Antonio Bryant is out for the entire preseason after knee surgery. Joy.

[MiamiHomer]

Antonio Bryant is out for the entire preseason after knee surgery. Joy.

He's one of my WR's in my fantasy money league :(. I think he'll be fine though. I believe Joey Porter has the same thing last year right before pre-season and he was fine through out the season.

[FishFanInPA]

boo hoo.....The Eagles have been crushed this preseason

[Fritz]

Holy fuck that T-Pain version of the Fins fight song was hysterical.

[Marlinsfan4lyfe]

Holy fuck that T-Pain version of the Fins fight song was hysterical.

Its cheesy and sort of corny but its way better than the original.
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At the 51 second mark of the song in that video ralph posted you can see the guys that invaded and spammed the TnB website a couple months ago

[PitchingWinsGames]

Eagles signed Mike Vick... c/o ESPN during the preseason game

[MiamiHomer]

Yay ffipa

[PitchingWinsGames]

/waits for Feepuh to say McNabb should be benched for Vick

[Marlinsfan4lyfe]

Now up to dictator Goodell to decide when Vick can start playing.

[MiamiHomer]

Michael Vick has signed a two-year deal with the Eagles. His agent, Joel Segal, confirmed to ESPN.com.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4397938

sure they'll have more as the night goes on.

[Ecpot]

Maybe now the media will shut up about Vick finally.

[MiamiHomer]

Maybe now the media will shut up about Vick finally.

Ummm this is just going to fuel it even more. ESPN is currently sending out 5 more vans to sit outside Eagle's camp to get the reactions from the ball boys there.

[Ecpot]

Yeah you have a point. They'll soon be calling for Vick to start over McNabb if the team isn't doing well, they probably will never shut up about him. Actually I can see Skip Bayless saying that Vick should start on First Take tomorrow.

[wanks1212]

good situation for him, and a pretty astute pickup by the eagles. i wish those buffalo rumors had turned out to be true

[FishFanInPA]

Couple of thoughts on this:

A) Very risky. Don't want to upset the fragile McNabb whose psyche is frail enough as it is. He was a little annoyed at some of the questions during the presser too.

B) The contract is odd. 1.6 for the first year and then a team option for 5.2 in year two? That's a lot to pay for a utility guy or a backup QB. Makes me wonder if something is up for next year.

C) The upside is very nice here when you mix him in with Maclin, Westbrook, Jackson, Shady McCoy. If Vick can accept a role that involves 6-10 plays a game then I'm for it.

I'm back and forth on whether or not I like it.

[Ramp]

In what world is Vick getting 6-10 plays a game?

Being dead serious here. Are they going to Wildcat him?

[FishFanInPA]

Reid mentioned that tonight that he would consider it but he has some package ideas for Vick.

[Mainge]

Wildcat, quick screens, tosses and reverses. Try him at a return role. He's not a good QB but his tremendous athleticism can be a weapon and the Eagles coaching staff is creative enough to find a way to get him on the field.

Plus didn't they use the Wildcat last year with Jackson, fip?

[Ramp]

Brandon Marshall acquitted

[FishFanInPA]

The more I marinate on this on my beach weekend, the more it angers me and I hate it. Unnecessary risk for a guy who won't play much. The fans hate it and it's hard for me to root for a piece of shit like him. I'm not going to go as far as others who say they won't root for the Eagles because of him but I'm rooting for him to screw up so we can cut his ignorant ass.

[marlins02]

The more I marinate on this on my beach weekend, the more it angers me and I hate it. Unnecessary risk for a guy who won't play much. The fans hate it and it's hard for me to root for a piece of shit like him. I'm not going to go as far as others who say they won't root for the Eagles because of him but I'm rooting for him to screw up so we can cut his ignorant ass.

your rooting for the man to fail? he's done and said all the right things since getting out of prison... MAYBE he's changed?

[FishFanInPA]

Do you think he'd still be doing it if he was never caught? Do you think that he'd say these things if he had no interest in returning to the league?

[Swifty]

Yet isn't a return to normalcy enough of an argument for the merits, and possibility, of rehabilitation?

[marlins02]

Do you think he'd still be doing it if he was never caught? Do you think that he'd say these things if he had no interest in returning to the league?

he got caught and he paid a huge price. what else do you want? he APPEARS to have changed his ways. if he has and he stays out of trouble than whats the problem?

now if he turns out to be pacman jones then get rid of him. pretty simple to me

[Omar]

Do you think he'd still be doing it if he was never caught? Do you think that he'd say these things if he had no interest in returning to the league?
That's not the right question to ask. The question is: Now that's he been caught and punished (therefore knowing for sure that it's wrong), will he do it again?

Also, trying to get back into the league (aka have a job) isn't necessarily a bad thing. Gives a goal to reach while he strives for normalcy.

[Junior]

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d811ee805/Pre-WK-1-Can-t-Miss-Play-QB-keeper

[FishFanInPA]

What you guys have said is all well and good but this is the NFL not a reclamation project. The Eagles didnt need Vick and dont need the distractions that come with it.

I also wanted to bring this up. On sports radio at home (i know you all love that), there were a lot of black people crying racism because he's a "ghetto" black quarterback. Do any of you feel that this is involved with why there's a lot of outrage against him because I don't at all.

[wanks1212]

well, anyone who calls into/takes seriously sports talk radio is a steakhead. that said:

some jackasses probably treat him differently b/c he's black, and yeah that's always goinig to be an issue for them. but for the most part, the outrage has to do with him electrocuting/drowning/beating a "family pet" as opposed to doing the same thing to a "farm animal" (like a cow or chicken or pig), and our different standards for treatment of dogs vs. every other animal

[PitchingWinsGames]

For Fippuh, re: Chat Thread;

Not when he's on the sidelines. He's not going to play more then 5 plays a game unless injuries force him there.


Do you understand what it is for a defense to prepare for something?

See, the difference between preparing for Michael Vick and preparing for the Wildcat is absolutely monumental. The Wildcat is a glorified gap assignment exercise. The defensive line has to not be stupid and over-pursue and the defensive backs have to stay at home and adjust their coverage. Baltimore showed that a good, disciplined defense can absolutely shred the Wildcat.

Michael Vick is not an exercise in gap assignment, he is not just simply an exercise in staying at home in coverage. His ability to improvise, combined with his athleticism is pretty much unprecedented, sans when Fran Tarkenton became the first QB to scramble as a weapon and defenses were like "Wait, wut, you can do that?"

It doesn't matter that he may only be in their 5-10 plays a game. Those are 5-10 games that will stretch the field in any number of games... he may not be a "good" quarterback... but, in the scheme of things, he's much much much better on a WR Reverse Pass, HB Pass or any iteration of non-QB passing you can think of.

And, in the meta-sense... you act like "OMG we don't need him, lols, we made the playoffs"... yay, super, you did. Except, you lost your three best defensive players and one of the best defensive coordinators in football for the season... you need to buffer those defensive losses, and getting Vick on what amounts to a no-risk deal, on the cheap, gives you the opportunity to do that.

However, most Eagles fans (at least the ones they portray in the media) are too busy looking down their collective noses at Vick, boasting some false semblance of "character" when, if/when this guy has like 500 yards passing, 500 receiving and 500 rushing and however many TDs, you guys will be bragging that you have him next year, potentially, too.

I can understand a "wait-and-see" attitude, the dude's shown contrition, and if Goodell of all people says he can play back in the league, that should mean something... But to sit there and act like he just got out of jail, hasn't done counseling, hasn't admitted he was wrong and is just taking football for granted... gimme a break.

And if you reply with "Well, I'd like to see how you'd act if the Steelers signed Vick"... I'd come to terms a while ago that there was a HUGE chance that it was going to happen and am convinced the only reason it didn't was because the Eagles offered more money in year two. And, for all the reasons explained above, I was fine with it.

[Fish and Chips]

im all for giving vick a 2nd chance in the nfl. just not on my team (the patriots) just because i dont want that publicity circus surrounding my team

he adds alot on paper, and is a useful weapon but is the marginal benefit of adding vick's athleticism greater than the marginal cost of that publicity circus?

[PitchingWinsGames]

im all for giving vick a 2nd chance in the nfl. just not on my team (the patriots) just because i dont want that publicity circus surrounding my team

he adds alot on paper, and is a useful weapon but is the marginal benefit of adding vick's athleticism greater than the marginal cost of that publicity circus?

Ok, well, what are the actual effects of the publicity circus?

All I can say is a backfield of Vick, Westbrook and McNabb with DeSean Jackson and Kevin Curtis on the outside is enough to make any D-Coordinator dump their trunks...

[Longview]

Whats the worst that can happen? He doesn't work out and the eagles cut him?

[Ralph]

NEW YORK — Former New York Giant Plaxico Burress pleaded guilty today to a weapons charge and agreed to a two-year prison term for accidentally shooting himself at a Manhattan nightclub.

The ex-wide receiver pleaded guilty to one count of attempted criminal possession of a weapon, a lesser charge than he initially faced. Under a plea agreement, he agreed to a two-year prison sentence and two years of supervised release.

Burress was indicted earlier this month on two counts of criminal possession of a weapon and one count of reckless endangerment. He faced a minimum sentence of 3 1/2 years if convicted at a trial.

The guilty plea ends months of haggling between Burress’ attorney and the Manhattan district attorney’s office. The case went to a grand jury earlier this month after negotiations broke down, apparently because District Attorney Robert Morgenthau was insisting that Burress serve at least two years in prison.

Assistant District Attorney Mark Dwyer said it is standard policy to request a two-year sentence as part of a plea bargain on such serious charges. Sentencing was set for Sept. 22.

In a Manhattan state Supreme Court room on Thursday, the soft-spoken Burress, wearing a dark blue suit, first entered a not-guilty plea to the initial charges against him. After attorneys on both sides conferred, Burress said, "Guilty" to the new attempted weapons possession charge.

His attorney, Benjamin Brafman, said in court that the 31-year-old Burress was thinking of his family in taking the plea, although he questioned the recommended prison sentence.

"This was not an intentional criminal act," Brafman said. "In my judgment, a two-year prison sentence is a very severe punishment."

With time off for good behavior the sentence could be reduced to 20 months.

The football star and former teammate Antonio Pierce were at the Latin Quarter nightclub in late November when a gun tucked into Burress’ waistband slipped down his leg and fired, shooting him in the right thigh. The bullet narrowly missed a nightclub security guard who was standing inches away, prosecutors said, lodged in the floor and was recovered by a bartender.

The gun was not licensed in New York or in New Jersey, where Burress lived, prosecutors said. His license to carry a concealed weapon in the state of Florida had expired in May 2008.

Prosecutors said Pierce drove Burress to a hospital, then took the gun to his own home in New Jersey where it was later delivered to Burress’ home.

Pierce was not indicted. The grand jury also did not indict the nightclub security guard who carried the gun to Pierce’s car or the hospital staff members who failed to notify police that Burress had been shot.

Burress, who caught the winning touchdown for the Giants over the New England Patriots [team stats] in the final minute of the 2008 Super Bowl, also could face disciplinary action by NFL commissioner Roger Goodell.

The Giants released Burress in April and he has yet to sign with another team.

http://news.bostonherald.com/sports/football/other_nfl/view/20090820ex-giant_plaxico_burress_pleads_guilty_in_weapons_cas e/srvc=home&position=recent
2 years... ouch

[Fritz]

Damn, he must've known he was boned if he copped a plea for two years.

[Ramp]

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter?game_id=54741&season=2008&displayPage=tab_gamecenter

Ocho Cinco kicked an extra point tonight... and made it

[FishFF]

Anyone watching the Cincinnati/New England game? Did Ochocinco really just kick a fg? says so in game day lol
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lol Ramp thanks

[Fish and Chips]

yea

[MiamiHomer]

Can't wait to see how it all went down when they show it on Hard Knocks next week.

[FishFF]

Can't wait to see how it all went down when they show it on Hard Knocks next week.

Such a good show

[FishFanInPA]

Temple's own Adam DiMichele threw a TD for the Eagles. Watch out McNabb.

/Not serious but expects a few idiots to make comments.

[Metes]

Temple's own Adam DiMichele threw a TD for the Eagles. Watch out McNabb.

/Not serious but expects a few idiots to make comments.

I wouldn't be surprised if Donovan started the season pretty low on the depth chart. His time has passed.

[Longview]

Damn good kick...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ih2wYN8eEl4

[wanks1212]

"'Esteban' Ochocinco is back. The most interesting footballer in the world. Everyone has to remember, I've always said that soccer is my No. 1 sport. I think Ronaldinho would be proud of me right now."

[Jewbility]

Sorry but why is he kicking?

[MiamiHomer]

Sorry but why is he kicking?

Their kicker had a groin injury so they felt they were better off resting him and having someone else do it.

[Fritz]

Ochocinco had a mighty fine kick.

[Mainge]

Tarvaris Jackson has made significant strides since being drafted. He can play quarterback in this league.

[marlins02]

Dolphins: Two cornerbacks awaiting swine flu test results
BY JEFF DARLINGTON
jdarlington@MiamiHerald.com


FILE PHOTOS
Cornerbacks Sean Smith, left, and Jason Allen, right, both fell sick late this week, a source said. The Dolphins advised their players this morning that two of their teammates will not attend tonight's game because of the swine flu, but it appears the team's explanation to its players is the result of the medical staff attempting to assume the worst.
Cornerbacks Sean Smith and Jason Allen both fell sick late this week, sources have told the Miami Herald, and each have spent the day in bed. Team spokesman Harvey Greene says the players are still undergoing tests to determine the actual diagnosis.

"Two players are sick,'' Greene said. "They are undergoing tests. We don't have the results of the test yet, but when we do get them, it is personal health information that will not be released publicly.''

Multiple sources maintain that they were told this morning by the team that at least a pair of their teammates would not attend tonight's game because of the "swine flu,'' which was the exact illness the team used to explain to the players about why their teammates would miss the game.

Another team source said any explanation given to the team about the swine flu was the result of the team trying to take every possible precaution to avoid an epidemic.

At this time of year, doctors generally don't test for swine flu, instead assuming that any flu-like symptoms are indeed infected by the swine flu in the summer months. Smith felt fine Thursday night, but became very uncomfortable Friday. He has spent all day in bed.

dammit

[Longview]

Ugh. That stinks. Vontae's time to step up.

[Beef]

Sammie Stroughter! Yay!

We sucks

[Ramp]

Eagles had McNabb split out, and Vick under center earlier

they gon have a bunch of cool plays this year

[Fritz]

Yeah, Eagles gon run some cool stuff.

[Ramp]

Roy Williams (WR) broke his collarbone

[Longview]

Ouch for the Cowboys. Maybe Garrett will realize his offense's strength is running the ball, and not throw 60 times a game, and cost my fantasy team major points because i had Barber.

[FishFF]

Roy Williams (WR) broke his collarbone

Negative..

[jonathan2323]

there is a schism

[Fish and Chips]

anyone think albert hanyeworth's hit on brady was dirty?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlXuha6mjfQ

im bias, so a outsiders opinion would clear my doubts

hope he's ok

[Namaste]

The NFL season thread has 5 pages already?


really?

[Mainge]

Dirty? He wrapped him up and tackled him.

[Junior]

Not sure how that was dirty.

[Fish and Chips]

like i said im bias, its seems to me that he was a little bit late, then even though brady got rid of the balll, albert drove him into the ground hard

then again, that could be my inner patriots fan seeing things, and im being overly sensitive to the hit

[Mainge]

I can't fathom how anyone can think that's dirty. Did he drive him to the ground? Yes. Did he drive him to the ground hard? Yes. But is this still football? Yes.

[PitchingWinsGames]

Remember not too long ago... when Mathias Kiwanuka had Vince Young wrapped up, and because he was afraid of some pansy unnecessary roughness call, didn't "finish" the play and the Giants got burned...

good times, NFL... good times...

[wanks1212]

The Bills aren't going to win more than 5 games. Their offensive line is a fucking sieve, and Trentative Checkwards looks like shit. Their skill position players are awesome (provided T.O. is healthy and Marshawn Lynch doesn't get suspended again), but without an offensive line they won't win shit.

And no, this isn't just based on the preseason, which is essentially meaningless. But it has confirmed some of my worst fears for the season.

[Branch]

anyone think albert hanyeworth's hit on brady was dirty?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlXuha6mjfQ

im bias, so a outsiders opinion would clear my doubts

hope he's ok

I'm a Pats fan, so bias surely exists with me... and no, not a dirty hit.:marchmellow

[Blackout Pact]

Heading to the Bears-Broncos game tonight at Invesco. Should be a pretty fun game with Cutler coming back into town.

[FishFanInPA]

http://www.philebrity.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/whobetter.jpg

[Jewbility]

how do i respond to that?

[Longview]

loljets

http://deadspin.com/5349579/why-your-team-sucks-new-york-jets-featuring-confessions-of-a-meadowlands-security-guard

[Branch]

Favre put a dirty block on some Texan last night.

That asshole! I hope they fine him:mischief

[Ecpot]

http://deadspin.com/tag/2009-nfl-preview/

Hilarious team previews.

[FishFanInPA]

Bengals tackle Andre Smith just provided another dramatic plot point for Hard Knocks.

The sixth overall pick of the draft broke his foot Tuesday, just two days after signing with the team. The injury came in a non-contact drill and Smith will not require surgery on the foot.

"It's too soon to closely predict how long it will be before he can return to practice. But it looks like he's going to miss a few weeks," coach Marvin Lewis said.

The Bengals seemed hopeful Smith could get in shape fast enough to start at right tackle in Week One, but those plans will have to be scuttled now.

Somewhere, Carson Palmer is shaking his head.

hehe Andre Smith

[FishFF]

hehe Andre Smith

to funny, I hope they make fun of his fat ass on hard knocks

[MiamiHomer]

to funny, I hope they make fun of his fat ass on hard knocks

Chad Ochocinco is the coolest guy ever.

[wanks1212]

jeff jagodzinski fired by the bucs

[Fritz]

Two OCs fired in the preseason. That is most amusing.

[Longview]

Apparently there was an argument between him and the QB's coach over who the starting QB should be...i would say he lost.

[Fritz]

Leftwich and McCown both suck, who really cares? Just let either of those dumbasses dump it off to KW2 8 times a game.

[Ralph]

holy Sean Smith... one handed pick in the endzone.

[MiamiHomer]

lol I was just about to post that. Fucking sick ass INT.

[Ralph]

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/ed/fullj.3a18fa66a1daacc67e56934d41c98034/3a18fa66a1daacc67e56934d41c98034-getty-88236144cg006_miami_dolphin.jpg

[Longview]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPhVc9sJZcY

[wanks1212]

Buffalo fires OC Turk Schonert. He's replaced by QB coach (and former Bills QB) Alex Van Pelt. Van Pelt has one year of experience as quality control coach and one year of experience as QB coach. Two total years of coaching experience, and he's never called plays at any level of football.

This season is going to fucking rock.

[Mainge]

Are the Bills still trying that no huddle offense? With that offensive line it's a god fucking awful idea.

Oh and:

http://i31.tinypic.com/2801bwh.gif

[wanks1212]

They are, and it's actually a smart idea with the offensive line deficiencies.

The idea is that the no-huddle ensures the defense has to keep the same 11 players on the field and can't freely substitute. Meaning the d-line can't get fresh pass rushers in, which presumably is an advantage for the offensive line, because the d-line gets tired easier (possibly a dubious argument, but there's some merit). This works to the Bills' advantage, because tired defensive linemen aren't as good at pass rushing. And the Bills' primary deficiency in their offense is their offensive line.

Using a quick strike, no huddle offense when you have a shitty offensive line is alot better than having the team attempt to be a power rushing team with the same offensive line. And Lord knows they won't be able to pass protect on 5 and 7 step drops against a fresh defensive line. Maybe the no-huddle wears down the other defense, and as a result the Bills linemen get some advantage.

Of course, this assumes the offense doesn't continually go three and out. Becuase, in that case, they're on the field for like a minute, and the Bills defense gets worn down because the other team controls the time of possession. Which is probably what's going to happen, but I don't fault them for trying to mix things up and play to their strenghts (good, versatile skill position players who can execute multiple formations with the same personnel, smart QB who can make adjustments at the line of scrimmage)

[Mainge]

I understand the philosophy behind it but I don't see it being successful. Your asking young linemen to do things they've never done before, atleast not consistently. I think there will be lots of missed assignments, miscommunication, etc.

Guess we'll see.

[Fritz]

As long as the Bills fuck up against us, I don't mind.

It's funny how they have so many cool skill position players but that offense will more than likely struggle.

[Mainge]

Just shows you how important an offensive line is. Evans, Owens, Edwards, Lynch, Jackson, Rhodes, Parrish, Hardy, Reed.

That's a lot of talent.

[wanks1212]

Oh, I don't see it being successful either. But that's because of quality of players on the offensive line (and the likelihood Trent Edwards gets hurt), not because of the philosophy.

When your team has substandard talent, you have to be creative on offense and do things that other teams don't do in order to succeed. The Dolphins' use of the Wildcat was a great example of how to do this properly. The Bills no huddle will likely be an example of how to fuck this up.

[Mainge]

Oh, I don't see it being successful either. But that's because of quality of players on the offensive line (and the likelihood Trent Edwards gets hurt), not because of the philosophy.

When your team has substandard talent, you have to be creative on offense and do things that other teams don't do in order to succeed. The Dolphins' use of the Wildcat was a great example of how to do this properly. The Bills no huddle will likely be an example of how to fuck this up.

Yeah, my thoughts exactly.

Are the Bills still trying that no huddle offense? With that offensive line it's a god fucking awful idea.

Cannot wait for NFL season.

[wanks1212]

It should also be noted that the Bills have 5 new starters on the offensive line, including 2 rookies who are learning new positions, a right tackle who used to be a guard, and a left tackle who (1) used to be a right tackle (2) wasn't good enough to play for hte goddamn raiders and (3) is being seriously pushed by 2008 7th round draft pick (and illegitimate, unacknowledged child of Karl Malone) Demetrius Bell.

[Mainge]

I couldn't pull that shit off in madden.

[Fish and Chips]

that no huddle offense for the bills is gonna by interesting, especially against the pats, belichick loves to substitute, and the no huddle doesnt allow many subs.
And that could give the bills a huge advantage. But then again the bills could go 3 and outs and they're on the field for minute, mutliple times, and that defense could be gassed by the 4th quarter

[Fritz]

It should also be noted that the Bills have 5 new starters on the offensive line, including 2 rookies who are learning new positions, a right tackle who used to be a guard, and a left tackle who (1) used to be a right tackle (2) wasn't good enough to play for hte goddamn raiders and (3) is being seriously pushed by 2008 7th round draft pick (and illegitimate, unacknowledged child of Karl Malone) Demetrius Bell.

Sounds like the 2004 Dolphins.

[FishFanInPA]

The list of those cut: receiver Brandon London, tackle Brandon Frye, linebacker Kershaw, cornerback Joey Thomas, safety Courtney Bryan, and defensive end Rod Wright. There weren't any huge surprises in that group.

Isn't London getting cut a surprise?

[Longview]

Surprised me. Ginn, Bess, Camarillo, Hartline, Turner...Am i missing someone?

[Jewbility]

London wasn't a surprise. We came into camp with everyone from last year PLUS Turner and Hartline. Brandon was always on the outside looking in this preseason.
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isn't there another special teams guy who plays wr?
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james robinson, was it?

[Fish and Chips]

seymour was traded to the raiders for there 2011 1st round pick

therefore i hope the raiders play like the raiders and lose

[Mainge]

Fuck the Patriots. Traded an older player with expiring contract for a likely top 5 pick.

[Fritz]

Yeah, the Patriots got a helluva deal. That'll be a top 10 pick easy. Sons of bitches.

[wanks1212]

Goddammit, the Raiders are idiots.

[MiamiHomer]

Goddammit, the Raiders are idiots.

I think their way past idiots at this point. I think mentally retarded is more suitable at this point. Need to administer some IQ tests because they got to have some retarded people in that front office.

[wanks1212]

shawn merriman arrested on assault/battery/false imprisonment charges for choking tila tequilla

[Metes]

You really couldn't write this stuff if you tried.
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Roid rage is a real bitch, eh?

[Mainge]

I think their way past idiots at this point. I think mentally retarded is more suitable at this point. Need to administer some IQ tests because they got to have some retarded people in that front office.

He's a free agent after the year too. You just know he'll resign with the Patriots.

[Branch]

Pats traded Richard Seymour to Raiders

RIP for Richard's career. At least the first half of it was good.

[Metes]

That's like, sooooo last page.

[Bingebag]

Distribution Map for CBS Early (AFC):

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a324/rockybehri/Picture1.png

[Metes]

If I drive about 3 hours east, to a completely random part of Idaho/Montana, I can watch the Fins.

Why the fuck is that little blue patch up here? Are some Idahoans/Montanans rabid Dolphin/Falcon fans?

[Beef]

You mean if you drive three hours east and knock on someone's door and watch in their house?

[Chewford]

Fucking Faguars always gotta ruin my Dolphin watchability!

[Metes]

You mean if you drive three hours east and knock on someone's door and watch in their house?

Yes, people there are very friendly.

I am getting a free preview of Sunday Ticket in week one, so that's nice.

[Beef]

It'll be like a preview of what you could see if you were an Idawhore

[Metes]

My dream cum true

[Bingebag]

Fox Early (NFC):

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a324/rockybehri/Picture2.png

Fox Late (NFC):

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a324/rockybehri/Picture3.png

[Fritz]

I get the Fins game in Largo. Sweet.

[FishFanInPA]

goddamnit, I want the Eagles game. Although I see that Directtv is free this week.

[wanks1212]

in an effort to divest themselves of anyone with prior experience starting in the NFL, the bills today released starting LT Langston Walker. they'll entrust 2008 7th round draft pick Demetrius Bell with the job of protecting Trent Edwards' blindside. at the least, this will result in a bunch of human interest stories on Bell's nonexistent relationship with his estranged father, Karl Malone, that will hopefully feature the Crank Yankers (i think that was the show) puppet of Karl Malone

[Fritz]

Jason Taylor and Joey Porter are gon be real happy.

[Ecpot]

This is a great defensive game tonight.

[Mainge]

This a poor offensive game.

[MiamiHomer]

Finally, man Holmes is going to have quite the season if Big Ben keeps looking for him this often.

[Longview]

Offensive explosion

[Metes]

What a super mega ultra exciting game to kick off the year

[Fritz]

Hines Ward was angry.

[Marlinsfan4lyfe]

Madden curse strike Troy Polamalu. Fitzgerald is next.

[Metes]

omg ur right

larry fitz be fucked

[Fritz]

Polamalu did miss games in both 2006 and 2007.

[MiamiHomer]

Have they said how serious the injury is?

[FishFanInPA]

3-6 weeks.

[FishFanInPA]

Former NFL quarterback Sean Salisbury was a journeyman at best during his NFL career. After retiring from football, he became a mini-star at ESPN, despite an annoying tendency to speak in absolutes and hyperbole. (Case in point, he said before Super Bowl XLI that, if Devin Hester of the Bears returns a kick for a touchdown, Chicago will win. Hester did. Chicago didn't.)

He left ESPN in early 2008, claiming that he wanted to move on to bigger and better things. Some thought that the powers-that-be in Bristol might not have been all that upset about the development.

Since then, Salisbury has generally faded into oblivion.

He'll be even more oblivious, according to the folks at Deadspin, because he has been fired from Dallas radio station 105.3 the Fan. Per Deadspin, Salisbury "freaked out a station promo girl after sexting her."

:lol

[wanks1212]

he did the same shit at espn before he left

[wanks1212]

http://a323.yahoofs.com/ymg/ept_sports_nfl_experts__16/ept_sports_nfl_experts-602954656-1252701652.jpg?ymUnE4BDuE98jFFI

santonio holmes, following the thursday night game

[Chewford]

Important Jacksonville Jaguars update:

September 12, 2009 | Issue 45•37 | Onion Sports

JACKSONVILLE, FL—At a press conference Monday, Jaguars quarterback and East Carolina University alum David Garrard indicated through certain statements to reporters that "East Carolina" is one of the 50 United States. "I can say without hesitation that it is definitely my favorite of all the Carolinas," said the former ECU Pirate, who, when pressed, identified the imaginary commonwealth's capital as Greenville and its state bird as the red-necked grebe. "There's just this enormous sense of state pride over there that I felt as soon as came across the North Carolina border. And it's a progressive state, too: Did you know Obama carried East Carolina?" Garrard later told reporters that if he had to choose one state to live in, it would be between Western Kentucky and Ball State.

[MiamiHomer]

:lol

[Chewford]

Anyone know a place to watch the Dolphins game online?

[FishFanInPA]

channel surfing.net

[Chewford]

Frank Caliendo as John Madden is so win.

Brett Favre was a man who thought he was retired but he knew it wouldn't last!

Always, that site pwns, Fip, thanks, you saved my life.

[FishFanInPA]

Glad it helps someone. Unfortunately the Eagles game is only radio right now. :(

[Bingebag]

I think this falcons game got blacked out. Fuck me.

[Flum]

Dolphins secondary is putrid.

[FishFanInPA]

This RedZone channel is for NFL fans with ADD. It's both great and hilarious

[MiamiHomer]

Matt Ryan is picking us apart.

[Flum]

Matt Ryan is picking us apart.
Our backs can't compete with their receivers.

If Ryan was on his game earlier, it would already be 14-0.
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Miami Lolphins

/chewie

[MiamiHomer]

Good to know our special teams still doesn't know how to block during kick returns.
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Beef must be loving this Cadillac resurgence.

[FishFanInPA]

Heheheheh, I love Jake Delhomme

[Flum]

Ted Ginn is...a Miami Dolphin.

[Marlinsfan4lyfe]

Tedd Ginn and his family are Miami Dolphins

[Flum]

Pat White is way too small to be a legitimate threat in the wildcat. That was a waste of a draft pick.

[FishFanInPA]

DeSean Jackson heheheheheheheheheheheheeh
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Is anyone else watching the Red Zone channel?

[Beef]

Yeah, Cadillac playing this well so far is absolutely incredible

[Flum]

Pat White = fail.

[FishFanInPA]

That was a sick throw by White. Shame no one was nearby.

[MiamiHomer]

Pat White = fail.

Calm down there flum.

[FishFanInPA]

Whoa, Camarillo caught that.

[Flum]

That was a sick catch.

[FishFanInPA]

Jake Delhomme makes my pants warm.

[Flum]

And we've got trickeration.

[MiamiHomer]

That was something different.

[Bingebag]

The Dolphins are fun to watch. Double passes and such.

[Flum]

The Dolphins may not be able to compete in talent with other teams, but they sure can beat them in sneakiness.
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Lolphins.

[Marlinsfan4lyfe]

holy shit
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Fasano got drilled

[MiamiHomer]

Doing the exact opposite of what we were doing last year.

[wanks1212]

Percy Harvin said he's learned more in three weeks from Brett Favre than he did from any coach he played for or any player he played with. I hate Brett Favre, but yay for backhanded shots at Urban Meyer.

[Chewford]

Percy Harvin said he's learned more in three weeks from Brett Favre than he did from any coach he played for or any player he played with. I hate Brett Favre, but yay for backhanded shots at Urban Meyer.

http://upnextinsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/128925836006849814.jpg

[MiamiHomer]

Man our offense is shit.

[Fritz]

Protection is pretty awful.

[MiamiHomer]

We are going to be shut out.

[Fritz]

Wow, Jake Long is getting SCHOOLED. Pathetic.

[MiamiHomer]

Our special teams sucks dick too lol.

[Chewford]

We aren't taking the ball from goal to goal like no one's ever seen.

[MiamiHomer]

Show me Chad Henne!!

[Chewford]

Awww, I was getting used to last year when I felt the Dolphins could actually go out on the field and do stuff. But this year our o-line is pathetic, our secondary sucks, our special teams aren't, it's whole bunch of fail on the field at all times. It's like we had Gameshark last year or something but we let the gameshark disc sit around get all scratched up and unreadable in the offseason and we have to rely on our bad skill.

[Flum]

Show me Chad Henne!!
I second this.
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Failsano.

[Fish and Chips]

ehehe

[Fritz]

I want to murder Fasano right now.

[FishFanInPA]

Wow I certainly didnt expect a pwning of the Panthers. Please take McNabb, Westbrook and D-Jax out now.

[MiamiHomer]

Seriously though, defenses aren't worried about getting beat deep against us so they play with the lines stacked.

[FishFanInPA]

Jake Delhomme. HAHAH

[MiamiHomer]

lol Will Allen...glad you're happy you batted down one ball today.
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Oh and the Jets look good.

[Chewford]

lol, Elam is bad.

[MiamiHomer]

lol wow...lets throw it to someone running the wrong way!

[FishFanInPA]

McCown is in for Delhomme.
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Matt Moore in for McCown.

[Chewford]

Alright, epic comeback time. Time to force a fumble, recover it, and return it for a double touchdown.

[Marlinsfan4lyfe]

OMFG. wtf jus happened in the denver cinci game

[FishFanInPA]

That was sick. Did anyone else see Brandon Stokley's TD?

EVEN BETTER....Gus Johnson went bizonkers calling it.

[MiamiHomer]

Somewhere Hugg is crying.

[Marlinsfan4lyfe]

that catch was fuckin incredbile

[Mainge]

McNabb is hurt?

[wanks1212]

McNabb walked off, pumped his fist, and returned to the sidelines. The Eagles were up 38-10, so he didn't come back to the game. Didn't seem serious, but with rib injuries you never know.

[FishFanInPA]

McNabb has a broken rib.

[Bingebag]

McNabb has a broken rib.

How long is Vick out fip?

[Longview]

Comes back week 3

[Mainge]

Watching Tony Dungy breakdown Peyton Manning's TD pass was grade A material. Take notes ESPN.

[FishFanInPA]

Jay Cutler amuses me.

[wanks1212]

McNabb out week 2, then after that it's "up in the air"

[FishFanInPA]

I laugh at that. Like Jay Glazer knows what the hell is going on in Philly. Reid says he could play potentially. A week is a long time.

[Longview]

I cant see McNabb playing this week if the diagnosis is correct. Broken Ribs are serious business.
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Wtf, fake punt from your own 20 something up by 2 on 4th and 11? Srsly?
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Had to be a missed signal or something because Wolfe didnt look like he was expecting that snap to come to him.

[Metes]

Julius Jones did the Natureboy strut after scoring today. I really don't like him, but now, how can I not love him?

[Ramp]

woooooooooooo

[Bingebag]

why no love for JJ? He played for god, you know.

[wanks1212]

WGGTSKOOU

[Fritz]

IAWY

[wanks1212]

well, at least both teams are wearing awesome uniforms tonight

[Ramp]

why not sneak it on 4th and inches?

such a dumb play call