View Full Version : Speculation: Do the Marlins Make a Deadline Move on July 31st?
Metes
07-31-2009, 02:22 AM
I say no.
:indifferent
mbitcronod12
07-31-2009, 07:44 AM
I'm about 70/30 that we can either get Pavano or get the Johnson trade done (both of which would help us) so I voted yes.
marlinsfan24
07-31-2009, 07:49 AM
I think we'll get Nick Johnson at the very least, so I say it will help us
wanks1212
07-31-2009, 08:21 AM
Here comes a LOOGY
m26555
07-31-2009, 09:28 AM
I think we'll get Nick Johnson at the very least, so I say it will help us
This.
BigGameFish
07-31-2009, 10:00 AM
NJ doesnt make up a playoff team guys, so sorry that means it doesnt help us.
I'm still hoping for Bell/Gonzalez, but I agree with mba in thinking that we get at least one of Johnson and Pavano, if not both.
BigGameFish
07-31-2009, 10:07 AM
I'm still hoping for Bell/Gonzalez, but I agree with mba in thinking that we get at least one of Johnson and Pavano, if not both.
I cant even imagine what Padres where demanding for both of those guys, probably our entire farm system and Hanley.
The Hanram
07-31-2009, 10:18 AM
NJ doesnt make up a playoff team guys, so sorry that means it doesnt help us.
I happen to think it does. It places everyone in a role more befitting them (save for Cantu at third base but beggars can't be choosers and that .400+ OBP sure would like sexy right in front of Hanley). It also takes Bonifacio out of the equation and lets him be in a role in which he should excel and thereby keep everyone fresher on the infield.
BigGameFish
07-31-2009, 10:23 AM
Moving a bad player to the bench doesnt push you so the playoffs. Putting a .400 OBP in front of Hanley wont make a big difference in the win column. We need a bat BEHIND Hanley not in front of him. Plus NJ is slow and old so its not like he will be scoring from first base on a Hanley gapper so who cares if he walks a lot. I agree it DOES help our team but with recent aquisitions by Phili, St.Loius, SF, resurgance of the Cubs, its going to take luck for us to win the Div or WC
Johnson has a great glove, improving the defense at four positions if he can save throws at first. He also can improve the offense by clogging the bases in front of Hanley, who hits a sparkling .396/.462/.604 with runners on and .424/.486/.630 with RISP
BigGameFish
07-31-2009, 10:24 AM
It would have been ideal to get someone to bat 4th because then everyone moves down and suddenly our lineup is very dangerous. But if he is slotted at 2 everyone 4-8 is still one spot higher than they should be.
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Johnson has a great glove, improving the defense at four positions if he can save throws at first. He also can improve the offense by clogging the bases in front of Hanley, who hits a sparkling .396/.462/.604 with runners on and .424/.486/.630 with RISP
It sounds like you are making excuses for this trade. Defense? Seriously? We are looking to upgrade on defense with a player we will only have for 2 months? Sorry 2 months of even Gold Glove defense doesnt even make the difference of 1 win for a team.
The Hanram
07-31-2009, 10:27 AM
Moving a bad player to the bench doesnt push you so the playoffs. Putting a .400 OBP in front of Hanley wont make a big difference in the win column. We need a bat BEHIND Hanley not in front of him. Plus NJ is slow and old so its not like he will be scoring from first base on a Hanley gapper so who cares if he walks a lot. I agree it DOES help our team but with recent aquisitions by Phili, St.Loius, SF, resurgance of the Cubs, its going to take luck for us to win the Div or WC
That's silly to base it on luck because everyone has to have luck to win.
That said, I'm not disagreeing with your main points, I just think that you are wrong in thinking that we need a bat behind Hanley rather than someone who gets on base regularly in front of him! Sub Zero already brought up the stats so nuff said.
It would have been ideal to get someone to bat 4th because then everyone moves down and suddenly our lineup is very dangerous. But if he is slotted at 2 everyone 4-8 is still one spot higher than they should be.
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It sounds like you are making excuses for this trade. Defense? Seriously? We are looking to upgrade on defense with a player we will only have for 2 months? Sorry 2 months of even Gold Glove defense doesnt even make the difference of 1 win for a team.
:fip Really? So defense is of no consequence whatsoever?
Also, how can you argue you want someone hitting behind Hanley when he's among the best (if not the best) hitter with runners on this year? Dude is hitting .400 with runners on!!!!! You don't need people behind Hanley (Cantu is already there), you need people for Ramirez to drive in.
tjfla
07-31-2009, 10:35 AM
We are gonna make at least 1 move. Either Johnson,Rhodes,or Pavano maybe even 2 of 3 or all 3
Mainge
07-31-2009, 11:01 AM
It would have been ideal to get someone to bat 4th because then everyone moves down and suddenly our lineup is very dangerous. But if he is slotted at 2 everyone 4-8 is still one spot higher than they should be.
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It sounds like you are making excuses for this trade. Defense? Seriously? We are looking to upgrade on defense with a player we will only have for 2 months? Sorry 2 months of even Gold Glove defense doesnt even make the difference of 1 win for a team.
If by making excuses, you mean making great points to prove why it's a good trade for the Marlins then yes. He's making excuses.
m26555
07-31-2009, 11:05 AM
It would have been ideal to get someone to bat 4th because then everyone moves down and suddenly our lineup is very dangerous. But if he is slotted at 2 everyone 4-8 is still one spot higher than they should be.
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It sounds like you are making excuses for this trade. Defense? Seriously? We are looking to upgrade on defense with a player we will only have for 2 months? Sorry 2 months of even Gold Glove defense doesnt even make the difference of 1 win for a team.
Like I said before; I think some people are really underestimating the impact that Johnson would have on this offense.
MiamiHomer
07-31-2009, 02:25 PM
No, won't do shit
sounds about right.
Namaste
07-31-2009, 03:40 PM
They did it
Longview
07-31-2009, 05:24 PM
I lost :banana
MiamiHomer
07-31-2009, 05:26 PM
I find it cool how close the deal was made so close to the deadline...was like 5 minutes away.
Marlinsfan4lyfe
07-31-2009, 05:28 PM
I was right
But i voted after the deadline passed and we made the move
m26555
07-31-2009, 05:48 PM
I find it cool how close the deal was made so close to the deadline...was like 5 minutes away.
I think it was actually like two minutes. Good stuff.
all black marlins hat
07-31-2009, 05:55 PM
I saw where it was first reported at 3:53.
Jewbility
07-31-2009, 05:58 PM
We probably won't make a deal, but if we do I think we'll get Nick Johnson and cause massive riots on the streets of Washington.
all black marlins hat
07-31-2009, 05:59 PM
I hate your sig
I thought it was hilarious. :violin
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We probably won't make a deal, but if we do I think we'll get Nick Johnson and cause massive riots on the streets of Washington.
A bit late there eh?
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