Cody Ross Rumblings

[m26555]

If this is true, I'll shoot myself:

Well you can say that I was in the right place at the right time.

Strolling down past Yankee Stadium on Sunday afternoon I happen to stop into a nice little cafe and sat down to have a coffee. The person sitting behind me gets a phone call. When he picks it up, he says "Hi Michael how you doing?"

What happens next in this conversation I wrote on a piece of napkin.

I was led to believe that the "Michael" is no one other than Florida Marlins GM Michael Hill, and the man sitting behind me is no one other than New York Yankees GM Brian Cashman.

The conversation was about a possible trade that the Yankees might be pulling off within the next 24 hrs.

The trade involved the Yankees sendng Colin Curtis and Anthony Claggett to the Marlins for outfielder Cody Ross.

Anthony Claggett has been very good in the minors, posting a 2.95 era in 30 appearances.

Collin Curtis has 12 home runs, 70 RBI's and 60 walks in AA and AAA combined this year. Also has stolen 14 bags while being caught once.

Cody Ross has 14 HR's and 53 RBI's with the Marlins thus far. Ross is an excellent defender and has some pop.

If you see this trade go down dont forget where you heard it first.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/225474-trade-deadline-news-yankees-breaking-news

TJ, any word on whether or not this is legit???

[MiamiHomer]

Where is tjfla with our daily update.

[marlins_virus.exe]

I do really like both of those guys

If we aren't going for it, you do that trade.

[FishFanInPA]

Why would we deal Ross for two spects who wouldnt help us now

[PitchingWinsGames]

You lost me at "Bleacherreport"

[m26555]

But we've already said we're buyers. Unless this is a precursor to another deal that would involve those prospects, I can't see this rumor being legitimate.
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I like that he says he was "led to believe" that the person sitting behind him was Brian Cashman... like... he couldn't confirm this?
Yeah; it seems VERY iffy to me.

[Beef]

He was led to believe one guy was Michael Hill and he knew the other guy was Brian Cashman

[MiamiHomer]

Michael Hill has say in what we do? That comes as a shock to me.

[Beef]

I'm assuming sometimes they pass him a piece of paper with what he is allowed to say and let him use the phone during this exciting time of the year. Perhaps Beinfest was already on the other line

[nny]

both of those guys suck

[MiamiHomer]

# Michael Silverman of the Boston Herald says the Red Sox are looking for a right-handed hitting fourth outfielder who plays good defense. He mentions Willie Bloomquist and Cody Ross as possible fits.
# The Marlins are looking to make moves, but it's unclear where they'd want to upgrade, according to Clark Spencer of the Miami Herald. They could add a starter, a reliever or a position player, but don't expect them to trade prospects Logan Morrison and Mike Stanton. Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports says the Fish "are split on whether to acquire a hitter or starting pitcher."

MLBtraderumors.

[jay576]

Lets hope Rosenthal is right because a reliever does nothing for this team

[BigGameFish]

Why did we trade Hammer? And im not saying this because of what he did last night. His OPS has been in the .900's all year and is now over 1.000....

[Bobbob1313]

Because he was chronically injured and seemed to lose all of his power after coming back last year.

[m26555]

WHY is Cody being considered a possible fit ANYWHERE? This is ridiculous.

[Metes]

Because he's probably the most valuable outfielder on the market.

His level of production and defense for how much he makes beats anyone out there.

[Ramp]

Because he's probably the most valuable outfielder on the market.

His level of production and defense for how much he makes beats anyone out there.

I wonder if Cody's defense makes up for .200 points of offense from Hammer

(not being a dick, legit wondering)

[m26555]

Because he's probably the most valuable outfielder on the market.

His level of production and defense for how much he makes beats anyone out there.
I understand that, but if we're really buyers like we say we are, we shouldn't be looking to move Cody at all.

[tjfla]

Here u go guys ill try to keep u updated throughout the day

We are getting ATON of interest in Cody Ross. Yankees and Red Sox with the most interest.Houston,Detroit,and San Francisco also are interested but doubtful they could compete with the Yankees or Sox. Have not heard any players but he might be gone with us replacing him with Mark Kotsay who was DFA by Boston

If we do the Cody Ross deal with the Yankees hearing could be a 3 way with Reds,Marlins and Yankees with us getting Arthur Rhodes and prospects

Cincy-No clue?? Possibly Jeremy Hermida
NY-Cody Ross and Harang or Arroyo
Florida-Arthur Rhodes,a player most likely a bat, and prospects

Carl Pavano is almost 80% gonna be back with us. We are working out a deal with Cleveland with the prospect we send them depending on how much they pay on his contract.

So we are currently looking for pitching with Carl Pavano and Arthur Rhodes as targets and if we make a deal possibly Mark Kotsay as a veteran OF

[Ramp]

Because he was chronically injured and seemed to lose all of his power after coming back last year.

See, I don't fully understand the lack of power comment. He still slugged .470.

He also slugged .473 his final 39 games

When he came off the DL initially, all his power was gone... but it came back
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I swear to Hanley, if Kotsay is brought in I will slap a random child in public

[m26555]

Here u go guys ill try to keep u updated throughout the day

We are getting ATON of interest in Cody Ross. Yankees and Red Sox with the most interest.Houston,Detroit,and San Francisco also are interested but doubtful they could compete with the Yankees or Sox. Have not heard any players but he might be gone with us replacing him with Mark Kotsay who was DFA by Boston

If we do the Cody Ross deal with the Yankees hearing could be a 3 way with Reds,Marlins and Yankees with us getting Arthur Rhodes and prospects

Cincy-No clue?? Possibly Jeremy Hermida
NY-Cody Ross and Harang or Arroyo
Florida-Arthur Rhodes,a player most likely a bat, and prospects

Carl Pavano is almost 80% gonna be back with us. We are working out a deal with Cleveland with the prospect we send them depending on how much they pay on his contract.

So we are currently looking for pitching with Carl Pavano and Arthur Rhodes as targets and if we make a deal possibly Mark Kotsay as a veteran OF
Cody Ross for RHODES AND PROSPECTS? Just kill me now.

What would you say are the chances Cody actually gets dealt?

[Bobbob1313]

I wonder if Cody's defense makes up for .200 points of offense from Hammer

(not being a dick, legit wondering)

All things considered, they are probably pretty close.

Can't check now, but doesn't Cody have significantly more PAs?

[MiamiHomer]

I hope Ramp doesn't get the point withere he has to slap a random child in public.

[tjfla]

Chances no clue I know we like him but he seems to be a hot name right now and we can sell high.

He is gonna be gone next year so?

[Ramp]

All things considered, they are probably pretty close.

Can't check now, but doesn't Cody have significantly more PAs?

104 more

[m26555]

I hope Ramp doesn't get the point withere he has to slap a random child in public.
I'll slap an infant in a baby carriage if we seriously deal Cody for that garbage.
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Chances no clue I know we like him but he seems to be a hot name right now and we can sell high.

He is gonna be gone next year so?
Yeah, but if we're trying to win this year, trading him doesn't make much sense at all.

[tjfla]

Guess we think we need pitching more than hitting? IDK

[Bobbob1313]

See, I don't fully understand the lack of power comment. He still slugged .470.

He also slugged .473 his final 39 games

When he came off the DL initially, all his power was gone... but it came back
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I swear to Hanley, if Kotsay is brought in I will slap a random child in public

He had a .260 iso in september. That's the only time he was really close to where he should have been, and he refused to have surgery on the back. He was and still is a pretty good bet to reaggravated it, and we had to make a choice between two relatively healthy (no recurring injuries) outfielders who had a lower potential or the older, chronic bam injury guy who had a higher ceiling but also a higher chance to give you nothing.

[m26555]

Guess we think we need pitching more than hitting? IDK
Yeah but Rhodes is a RELIEF pitcher. When are we going to get it through our thick skulls that we do NOT NEED another reliever? If we get a bat and/or starting pitcher PLUS a reliever, then great; it's an added bonus, but our PRIMARY move cannot be acquiring a bullpen guy, ESPECIALLY at the expense of one of our best hitters.

[Bobbob1313]

Bah, iPhone errors.

Chronic back injuries.

[Ramp]

Guess we think we need pitching more than hitting? IDK

when it comes to this front office, there is no thinking involved

[Bobbob1313]

Reading comprehension for the win:

Cincy-No clue?? Possibly Jeremy Hermida
NY-Cody Ross and Harang or Arroyo
Florida-Arthur Rhodes,a player most likely a bat, and prospects

[Beef]

Thank you bobchris

[Metes]

I wonder if Cody's defense makes up for .200 points of offense from Hammer

(not being a dick, legit wondering)

Okay, well I was saying for the money (Cody's $2.25 salary) but I see that Hammer makes just $2.95. I thought he had a bigger contract. You win.

[m26555]

Reading comprehension for the win:

Cincy-No clue?? Possibly Jeremy Hermida
NY-Cody Ross and Harang or Arroyo
Florida-Arthur Rhodes,a player most likely a bat, and prospects
You really think this "bat" is going to be anything special?

[FishFanInPA]

So we're gonna carry 3 lefties in the pen or is Pinto going to be traded away for a gaggle of baseball bats.

[MiamiHomer]

You really think this "bat" is going to be anything special?

What's to say it won't be?

[Metes]

Signing Kotsay would be such an unspeakable abortion of justice and all that is good in the universe

[m26555]

What's to say it won't be?
Unless we're including other stuff in the deal (such as Hermida, like TJ speculated), Cody Ross is not going to bring back Rhodes, a prospect(s), and a good hitter. I'm not sure Cody + Herms would do it, either.

[Beef]

You really think this "bat" is going to be anything special?

I just don't get the jumping to conclusions and the jumping to angry conclusions thing. I'll be pissed if certain things happen, indifferent if others happen and excited if others happen. But right now, where I don't really know whats going on and neither do you, getting upset over the very limited info we may or may not even have seems strange. You said it'd be cool if we got things we need most and added a bullpen arm but it'd be terrible if we got the bullpen arm as our big acquisition. I can agree with that, but just because we have information that we may be going after Arthur Rhodes, can we imply that the Fish plan on that being their huge acquisition and ending their dealings there?

[Bobbob1313]

You really think this "bat" is going to be anything special?

I think that is a safer bet than us just giving up Cody for nothing, which is what most of you are saying.

[Metes]

Is it really a lock that we bring back Pavano? Tj thinks so. What y'all thinks? I wouldn't be against it.

[m26555]

I just don't get the jumping to conclusions and the jumping to angry conclusions thing. I'll be pissed if certain things happen, indifferent if others happen and excited if others happen. But right now, where I don't really know whats going on and neither do you, getting upset over the very limited info we may or may not even have seems strange. You said it'd be cool if we got things we need most and added a bullpen arm but it'd be terrible if we got the bullpen arm as our big acquisition. I can agree with that, but just because we have information that we may be going after Arthur Rhodes, can we imply that the Fish plan on that being their huge acquisition and ending their dealings there?
I understand where you're coming from, but we've pretty much already said that our top prospects are off-limits, and if we do in fact deal Cody and Hermida in the same deal, we lose two pretty big trade chips. Can you realistically see us acquiring a nice bat if we make a move like this? Also, UNLESS there is more to this rumor than we know, I can't see Ross + Hermida bringing back that big of a haul; I just can't.

And, for the record, I'm not really jumping to conclusions; I'm just saying I'd be VERY pissed IF we made this deal.

[Beef]

I understand where you're coming from, but we've pretty much already said that our top prospects are off-limits, and if we do in fact deal Cody and Hermida in the same deal, we lose two pretty big trade chips. Can you realistically see us acquiring a nice bat if we make a move like this? Also, UNLESS there is more to this rumor than we know, I can't see Ross + Hermida bringing back that big of a haul; I just can't.

And, for the record, I'm not really jumping to conclusions; I'm just saying I'd be VERY pissed IF we made this deal.

Yeah, my comments were mostly for everyone. It seems that one rumor turns into everyone freaking out and getting angry about all sorts of things that are just further speculation on top of speculation.

[Bobbob1313]

What if the prospect we get is like a 'c' but we get a good hitter out of it?

[Ramp]

When was the last time we traded for a good hitter midseason?

Paul Lo Duca?

(my mind might seriously be drawing a blank, so if we did bring someone cool in then my apologies)

[m26555]

What if the prospect we get is like a 'c' but we get a good hitter out of it?
Well, let's think for a minute; if the Reds and Yankees are in fact the two teams involved, what hitter could we possibly get in return? I can't think of another player we could realistically get back that would be better/as good as Ross.

[Party]

When was the last time we traded for a good hitter midseason?

Paul Lo Duca?

(my mind might seriously be drawing a blank, so if we did bring someone cool in then my apologies)

Nope, as bad as it sounds PLD is it.

I don't see the FO pulling off such a stupid deal. Yeah they pulled off the LD trade, but that one didn't have universal disapproval.

[tjfla]

The 3 way makes alot of sense especially when yesterday I was told it was us talking to Cincy about a pitcher.

The thing about what the guy said about Cashman talking to us seems to make sense. My only thing about that is I do not thing Hill has any say when it comes to anything.


Maybe we do a Hermida to Cincy for Arroyo and Rhodes then Arroyo and Ross to NY Yankees for ???

[marlins_virus.exe]

Really don't understand how we can say we're competing this year if we move Cody. Really, really don't.

[Metes]

As part of a bigger deal it makes sense, but if we're getting any spex in return, it's full on sale mode.

[Ramp]

I don't believe the front office is making moves for this year. If we win, so be it.

[Party]

Ryan Freel is no longer with the Reds.

::wipes brow::

[Beef]

Really don't understand how we can say we're competing this year if we move Cody. Really, really don't.

There are ways that the front office may see it as a possibility. It may or may not work out, but I don't see why trading Cody means we are not trying to compete this year. Sometimes ya gotta trade something of value to get something of value. We are going to lose somebody we are a fan of probably if we are going to get something of value in return. We may not get what we want in this or every situation, but that tends to be the thing most dont understand, instead just getting upset that we may have to trade a guy they like. Perhaps the FO thinks trading Cody and getting another starting pitcher and bringing up Maybin could be successful. Perhaps Cody could go somewhere with other guys and bring in a 3B or LF upgrade and then Maybin replaces Ross. There are a bunch of options, some may not work, some might, all might not, who knows. But trading Cody, and here it is trading Cody and no other info on what we would get in return and what other moves we would make or attempt to make, does not ring some sort of special white flag bell

[Omar]

Trading Cody makes limited sense because he's been our best OF, especially considering there are two higher regarded potential players in our OF with him. I think you deal Coghlan, Hermida, or even Maybin first if you are going for this year especially considering Ross' cost.

[tjfla]

I don't believe the front office is making moves for this year. If we win, so be it.

I have the same feeling. I think the mind set is to get high value for guys who won't be here next year(Ross,Hermida) and if we keep winning good and if not they don't care

I know for a fact Cincy likes and wants Jeremy Hermida the only problem had been they wanted give up crap for him. Now that Jay Bruce is out they could use him and would be an upgrade in the OF for them no matter what.
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Does anyone know what Rhodes contract is? Did they sign him for 1 or 2 years

[Ramp]

Arthur Rhodes
# 2 years/$4M (2009-10)

* signed by Cincinnati as free agent 12/12/08
* 09:$2M, 10:$2M

[tjfla]

The deal keeps making more and more sense to me

[Ramp]

The deal keeps making more and more sense to me

the deal in which we ship out 2/3 of our starting outfield?

[Party]

For a forty-something reliever and prospects. :fip

[m26555]

The deal keeps making more and more sense to me
Maybe for the other teams involved in the deal.

[tjfla]

Guys u are missing the big picture

Cody Ross WILL NOT be here next year,so get something for him. His value is as high as it will be with NY Yankees and Boston fighting for him.

Jeremy Hermida we have been trying to deal for months.

Its not like we are trading 2 guys who have been untouchable. They both have been sitting there since June and probably are out of the teams future plans. I know we are playing for this year still but like Ramp said seems we are in the if we win this year COOL but we are not expecting it


An OF of Coghlan,Maybin,Carroll or Coghlan,Carroll,Gload or whoever else we would pickup?

[Party]

And look I'm in favor of giving Maybin another shot, but there are more ways to do that without shipping off our best (yeah not saying much) outfielder to New York.

How about we target the weaker cogs in the line-ups instead? You know who I'm talking about Beinfest...

...yeah that guy....
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Guys u are missing the big picture

Cody Ross WILL NOT be here next year,so get something for him. His value is as high as it will be with NY Yankees and Boston fighting for him.

Jeremy Hermida we have been trying to deal for months.

Its not like we are trading 2 guys who have been untouchable. They both have been sitting there since June and probably are out of the teams future plans. I know we are playing for this year still but like Ramp said seems we are in the if we win this year COOL but we are not expecting it


An OF of Coghlan,Maybin,Carroll or Coghlan,Carroll,Gload or whoever else we would pickup?

Ok I can understand this. But if we are trading Hermida, I would take a gamble and see if he appreciates between now and October.

[m26555]

Guys u are missing the big picture

Cody Ross WILL NOT be here next year,so get something for him. His value is as high as it will be with NY Yankees and Boston fighting for him.

Jeremy Hermida we have been trying to deal for months.

Its not like we are trading 2 guys who have been untouchable. They both have been sitting there since June and probably are out of the teams future plans. I know we are playing for this year still but like Ramp said seems we are in the if we win this year COOL but we are not expecting it


An OF of Coghlan,Maybin,Carroll or Coghlan,Carroll,Gload or whoever else we would pickup?
If we make a deal like that, we are simply not playing for this year at all. I'm sorry, but the "if we win, great; if we don't, oh well" mentality does not sit well with me at all. This team is seriously a player or two away from becoming the favorite to win the Wild Card, so I don't get why in the world we'd try to sell high. If you have a team that can win, you stick with it and improve it.

[Party]

Yes, but is getting that player or two without mortgaging '11 and '12 possible? If it isn't we should sell off.

[tjfla]

Just find it funny how u guys are all about shipping someone off till u hear what his value is:D

We have supposedly offered Hermida to every team in the league and the only teams interested in listening were Cincy,Atlanta and Seattle.

So u ship him to Cincy for Arroyo or Harang and another player or prospects. Get good value for him finally however we can't afford a 11 mil dollar pitcher so then we ship the 11 mil dollar arm who we can't afford and a GOOD OF who has about a 10% chance of being here next year to a team with a ton of prospects and has no problem trading them.

[Omar]

Why are we so sure Ross won't be here next year?

[m26555]

Yes, but is getting that player or two without mortgaging '11 and '12 possible? If it isn't we should sell off.
I think so. Said player doesn't have to be a star. All we need is another solid bat in this lineup, and that certainly wouldn't mortgage our future.

[marlins_virus.exe]

if Ross won't be here next year we can move him in the offseason

don't see what the issue is

[tjfla]

Teams want 4 names from us in every deal that is the problem

Logan Morrison
Mike Stanton
Sean West
Chris Coghlan

Cleveland what u want for Victor Martinez-Sean West/Chris Coghlan
Baltimore what u want for Aubrey Huff-Chris Coghlan:eek:
Pittsburgh what u want for Freddy Sanchez/Andy Laroche-Chris Coghlan:fip
Toronto what u want for Roy Halladay-Logan Morrison/Sean West/Chris Coghlan:confused:

[m26555]

Why are we so sure Ross won't be here next year?
That's what I'm wondering too. It's not like he's going to cost THAT much.
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Teams want 4 names from us in every deal that is the problem

Logan Morrison
Mike Stanton
Sean West
Chris Coghlan

Cleveland what u want for Victor Martinez-Sean West/Chris Coghlan
Baltimore what u want for Aubrey Huff-Chris Coghlan:eek:
Pittsburgh what u want for Freddy Sanchez/Andy Laroche-Chris Coghlan:fip
Toronto what u want for Roy Halladay-Logan Morrison/Sean West/Chris Coghlan:confused:
None of those deals would really be THAT bad for us, to be honest. I think if we can get V-Mart for West and Coghs, you do it, and if you can get Halladay for that, you also do it.

[tjfla]

if Ross won't be here next year we can move him in the offseason

don't see what the issue is

The issue is they know that we are not gonna sign him. Why offer alot when u know a guy won't be there. Every team knows we won't offer him anything because we won't pay 2.5 mil for him

Like last year with Arthur Rhodes we could have offered him arbitration and at least got a draft pick for him,but instead we just let him walk

[Fish and Chips]

i have no problem dealing CC for a bat

[m26555]

i have no problem dealing CC for a bat
Depending on the bat we get in return, of course, but I agree with you, as much as I love Coghs.

[tjfla]

i have no problem dealing CC for a bat

I agree but they seem to not want too,just saying thats the probem we are having.

Instead of asking for a fair package they want a top prospect/young ML ready player.

Also don't forget guys all of these guys cost money. If Victor Martinez was making 2 mil dollars u dont think we would have already offered them aton?? That is why they liked Andy Laroche,young guy who was cheap and a bat

[Bucklin12]

I do that V-Mart trade in a second, if other moves are made for that piece to make sense.

[m26555]

I do that V-Mart trade in a second, if other moves are made for that piece to make sense.
Agreed.

I think that deal would be a steal, to be honest. V-Mart is an elite offensive talent.

[tjfla]

The problem is what is his contract,unlike most teams we actually have to look to see what a guy is making..


Yankees see Harang and say nice pitcher maybe he can help us
Marlins see Harang and say how much does he cost? nice pitcher can't afford him

[Fish and Chips]

CC doesnt seem to fit in the FO's plans. They rather have boner play 2nd or 3rd, and CC doesnt have the bat for a corner outfielder, or the ability to play CF. So trade him to a team that want a young,MLB-ready middle infielder for a real 3rd or LF

[m26555]

TJ; were those V-Mart/Halladay proposals true, or is that just you speculating?

[tjfla]

TJ; were those V-Mart/Halladay proposals true, or is that just you speculating?

Sorry not true,just was saying on what teams were start a discussion for

[FishFanInPA]

Timeout. Those deals you mentioned can't be real. We could get Victor for Coghlan and Sean West? Deal.

[MiamiHomer]

Read post above you.

[FishFanInPA]

I was too busy hyperventilating at that point. my apologies.

[tjfla]

Timeout. Those deals you mentioned can't be real. We could get Victor for Coghlan and Sean West? Deal.

NO NO NO NO

Just was saying what the discussion would start at, he would cost ALOT more and highly doubtful they even consider it now that they dealt Garko

[nny]

I wonder if Cody's defense makes up for .200 points of offense from Hammer

(not being a dick, legit wondering)

hammers of defense is fine now he's better if you need a corner bat and cody's defense doesn't translate to the corners like you think it would considering how well he plays cf but obviously if you need a cf bat cody > hammer

[m26555]

Here u go guys ill try to keep u updated throughout the day

We are getting ATON of interest in Cody Ross. Yankees and Red Sox with the most interest.Houston,Detroit,and San Francisco also are interested but doubtful they could compete with the Yankees or Sox. Have not heard any players but he might be gone with us replacing him with Mark Kotsay who was DFA by Boston

Well, Kotsay was just dealt to the White Sox, so we can scratch off that possibility (thank God).

[BigGameFish]

Don't any of you suscribe to the idea of SELLING HIGH! His value wont ever be better that now, he is an above average OF and close to or over 30 years in age if I'm not mistaken. Whats the big deal? We have Maybin and Staton and Morrison (or 1B) to occupy the OF in years to come.

[Party]

Don't any of you suscribe to the idea of SELLING HIGH! His value wont ever be better that now, he is an above average OF and close to or over 30 years in age if I'm not mistaken. Whats the big deal? We have Maybin and Staton and Morrison (or 1B) to occupy the OF in years to come.

This is the big deal. (http://soflamarlins.com/showpost.php?p=1571&postcount=15)

[Metes]

Well to be honest, I don't think I'll ever be able to shake the notion that Cody is playing over his head. An opportunity to sell him at a high point shouldn't really be passed up in my opinion. However, we need him this year so if you're trying to make a push, you keep him until the offseason (unless it's part of a bigger trade or series of trades that brings in a center fielder).

[McLevin]

I'd trade Cody Ross if it could help the Fish land a Halladay, a Lee, or another high quality starting piticher

Otherwise, count me out. Some would say "trade him for a good corner bat," but all you're doing is trading production for production

Now, you could say, Corner Bat at 3B + Maybin in CF > Bonifacio at 3B + Ross at CF, but:
1) I don't know if that's necessarily true, although it certainly could be
2) Bonifacio isn't going anywhere

So yeah, Ross for a playoff push SP, and that's about it.
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Speaking of Bonifacio not going anywhere, has anyone started to make peace with that? He's not ideal, he makes stupid mistakes, but God damn, he's our little stupid speedy Boner guy, and he completes my heart

[Ramp]

Speaking of Bonifacio not going anywhere, has anyone started to make peace with that? He's not ideal, he makes stupid mistakes, but God damn, he's our little stupid speedy Boner guy, and he completes my heart

I hope you take him on a honeymoon far far away

[McLevin]

Nah, Fip can do that. I'm not in love with him, but seeing him every day on my TV screen has made me feel attached. He's imperfect in an imperfect world, but he's doing his best!

[nny]

Cody is basically replicating his production from last year. This is what he is.